What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
04-15-2017, 04:05 PM
#1541
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Originally Posted by DashAviator
Details of the TA have not yet been released, and it has to be voted on anyway. The company DID release some details of their most recent offer to the union:
(1) First Officer pay scale would be increased to $40/hour for Year 1, $46/hour for Year 2, and up to $52/hour for Year 8 and higher.
(2) One-time ratification bonus of $15,000 ($10,000 initially, plus $5,000 in one year).
(3) Minimum trip rig of 4.5 credit hours per day for the Q400. Note that this is a trip rig and not the minimum per day. For example, a 2-day trip would be worth a minimum of 9 credit hours.
As noted in a previous post, the company wanted to be able to work outside of our current contract with respect to new-hire bonuses and tuition reimbursement programs. Our union leadership decided that this was unacceptable. This was the cause of the most recent stalemate in negotiations.
(1) First Officer pay scale would be increased to $40/hour for Year 1, $46/hour for Year 2, and up to $52/hour for Year 8 and higher.
(2) One-time ratification bonus of $15,000 ($10,000 initially, plus $5,000 in one year).
(3) Minimum trip rig of 4.5 credit hours per day for the Q400. Note that this is a trip rig and not the minimum per day. For example, a 2-day trip would be worth a minimum of 9 credit hours.
As noted in a previous post, the company wanted to be able to work outside of our current contract with respect to new-hire bonuses and tuition reimbursement programs. Our union leadership decided that this was unacceptable. This was the cause of the most recent stalemate in negotiations.
The last offer that was turned down had FO signing bonuses up to $25k + tuition reimbursement, we'll see what happens to that.
I'm hoping this new deal will make Horizon a destination spot once again for new pilots, and for the first time in years I'll be able to start recommending this place.
04-15-2017, 06:34 PM
#1542
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
This is correct. Year 3 FO would be $47 but with the addition of 13 jets this year the upgrade times should go well under 2 years.
The last offer that was turned down had FO signing bonuses up to $25k + tuition reimbursement, we'll see what happens to that.
I'm hoping this new deal will make Horizon a destination spot once again for new pilots, and for the first time in years I'll be able to start recommending this place.
The last offer that was turned down had FO signing bonuses up to $25k + tuition reimbursement, we'll see what happens to that.
I'm hoping this new deal will make Horizon a destination spot once again for new pilots, and for the first time in years I'll be able to start recommending this place.
04-15-2017, 09:56 PM
#1545
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After the E175 jet TA was rammed down our throats a year and a half ago, there were many who said that we just needed to wait for the pilot shortage to hit the company, then they would come crawling back to us, and we'd be able to make up for some of what we lost. Getting $15,000 in exchange for giving new hires $25,000 plus another $25,000 in training reimbursements, is not what I call a big win for us. After a couple horrible, recent hotel changes, I will be looking to see that the company is actually going to give us a 50/50 say in all future hotels. That was a last minute change of mind issue on the part of the company last week, and largely what caused the EXCO to walk out of the talks, if I have my facts correct. If not, I don't know what is in this for any of us that have been here for a decade or longer.
04-16-2017, 01:25 PM
#1548
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Originally Posted by Citation X
Can someone please tell me if one could get KMED out of training and how long one could expect to sit reserve there at this time?
Most junior MFR Lineholder is 10/31/16, hard to tell how long it will be because once jets arrive at a faster rate (supposed to have 8 within the next few months) there will be a lot of movement on the Q400 side as people upgrade.
04-16-2017, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Citation X
Someone mentioned that while on reserve it is nearly impossible to build a schedule that would contain a 3 day off stretch......is this true?
Edit: looking at the lines for this bid all reserves get 12 days off, almost all reserve lines have over two stretches of 3-4 day off breaks
Last edited by snackysmores; 04-16-2017 at 06:22 PM.
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