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Old 04-16-2017, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by airtim6
We are buying/merging with Hawaiian. It's inevitable. The widebodies are there and if they don't workout across the pond to Europe, they can resume their current service out to Asia. Their corporate "culture" is similar to ours and as someone previously posted- a CBA. I think buying F9 is a terrible idea- completely different group over there and would deteriorate the credibility of our product. Hopefully the price tag isn't 4 Bil like Virgin. JMO

"Completely different group over there"

What does that even mean? Pilots? Culture? Aircraft configuration?

BL is, if JB were to merge with anyone, the planes would be retrofitted to look like any other plane in the current fleet.....
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:00 AM
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Jetblue wants to go to Europe, clearly. Mgmt prides themselves on the JD power awards and the recent trip advisor ratings as well as MINT. What makes more sense- buyout or merger with Hawaiian which would contribute to all of that or an ULCC that prides themselves on being the "Target" of the ULCC market in addition to the rave reviews from their customers lol?
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by airtim6
We are buying/merging with Hawaiian. It's inevitable. The widebodies are there and if they don't workout across the pond to Europe, they can resume their current service out to Asia. Their corporate "culture" is similar to ours and as someone previously posted- a CBA. I think buying F9 is a terrible idea- completely different group over there and would deteriorate the credibility of our product. Hopefully the price tag isn't 4 Bil like Virgin. JMO
I think HA would make a lot of sense with regard to the widebodies. Here's another morsel to chew upon if the rumor of Tilden recently visiting B6 headquarters is accurate: Alaska bought Virgin for such a high cost to effectively tie themselves to the JetBlue life preserver. They knew that if we took Virgin, both B6 and Delta would drive them into the ground out west. So, they grab Virgin, even with all the debt on top of the $2.6B and having to pay Branson for the brand till 2040, and then promptly run over to B6 offering the ultimate merger. This way they ensure they have a seat when the music stops.
 
Old 04-16-2017, 10:27 AM
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If you have training experience you should apply to be an adjunct the next time a position is open. You'll need a recommendation from someone down in the schoolhouse.
I applied in this last go around. IIRC about 2-3 weeks ago. Posting closed on a Friday and I got a call Saturday morning..."Can you interview Monday." Uh, I've got a four day trip. They were looking to backfill a CA slot for the next class. Seemed kind of frantic. Told them Monday I couldn't. Response was they were still going to continue the process through the summer at the rate of 2-3 a month. Said to expect a call in 2-3 weeks.

I feel I've got something to offer and have no ulterior motive other than the desire to teach but also to remain actively engaged in flying. The adjunct appeals to me as I'd like to continue to live in TX. I've got prob 1600 in the bus now but the strength of a good teacher is in the methodology not necessarily the subject. That's certainly part of it but a deep understanding of the how as opposed to the what is the key. And no death by PowerPoint or "dress the non-rev."
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
I applied in this last go around. IIRC about 2-3 weeks ago. Posting closed on a Friday and I got a call Saturday morning..."Can you interview Monday." Uh, I've got a four day trip. They were looking to backfill a CA slot for the next class. Seemed kind of frantic. Told them Monday I couldn't. Response was they were still going to continue the process through the summer at the rate of 2-3 a month. Said to expect a call in 2-3 weeks.

I feel I've got something to offer and have no ulterior motive other than the desire to teach but also to remain actively engaged in flying. The adjunct appeals to me as I'd like to continue to live in TX. I've got prob 1600 in the bus now but the strength of a good teacher is in the methodology not necessarily the subject. That's certainly part of it but a deep understanding of the how as opposed to the what is the key. And no death by PowerPoint or "dress the non-rev."
This guy gets it. I hope I get to learn from you.
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Old 04-16-2017, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by airtim6
Jetblue wants to go to Europe, clearly. Mgmt prides themselves on the JD power awards and the recent trip advisor ratings as well as MINT. What makes more sense- buyout or merger with Hawaiian which would contribute to all of that or an ULCC that prides themselves on being the "Target" of the ULCC market in addition to the rave reviews from their customers lol?
Eliminate competition. There are 3 carriers with lower costs than JB. Spirit, Allegiant, Frontier (Virgin America was #4).

Buy F9, retrofit their fleet to look like ours (we already have the cabin restyling program set up). The JetBlue product could do very well in the Midwest when you consider the alternatives (SWA 737s and a bunch of RJs connecting to legacy hubs). Additionally, we'll need Midwest feed to BOS/JFK when we start Europe (MCO/FLL feed for Deep South flying).
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Eliminate competition. There are 3 carriers with lower costs than JB. Spirit, Allegiant, Frontier (Virgin America was #4).

Buy F9, retrofit their fleet to look like ours (we already have the cabin restyling program set up). The JetBlue product could do very well in the Midwest when you consider the alternatives (SWA 737s and a bunch of RJs connecting to legacy hubs). Additionally, we'll need Midwest feed to BOS/JFK when we start Europe (MCO/FLL feed for Deep South flying).
The funny thing about the F9 product is that when we owned Live TV they were initially the only other US customer, before Continental. Until Bedford ruined them and and sold the smoking remains to Indigo their cabin and product looked an awful lot like ours. Everything old is new again...
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by airtim6
We are buying/merging with Hawaiian. It's inevitable. The widebodies are there and if they don't workout across the pond to Europe, they can resume their current service out to Asia. Their corporate "culture" is similar to ours and as someone previously posted- a CBA. I think buying F9 is a terrible idea- completely different group over there and would deteriorate the credibility of our product. Hopefully the price tag isn't 4 Bil like Virgin. JMO
So we would buy/merge with HA, and suddenly they'd stop going to Tokyo, Seoul, Manila, and Sydney, so we can put those 330's to European destinations?
I can't imagine those routes as poor performers for HA now.
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:11 AM
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Yeah I'm sure those Asia routes for HA yield a lot more money than anything in Europe. A merger with HA would be murder for B6 pilots. HA has 600 pilots with "career expectations" of being wide body captains. B6 pilots, not so much.
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Yeah I'm sure those Asia routes for HA yield a lot more money than anything in Europe. A merger with HA would be murder for B6 pilots. HA has 600 pilots with "career expectations" of being wide body captains. B6 pilots, not so much.
Murder?
Come on they have 600 guys we've got 6x that. Of which how many want to be based on the east coast? LGB might take a hit. After the fences came down I can't imagine it'd really be that bad for anyone. There'll be some who jump from the island to MCO and vise verse but end of the day it'll be a Wash. more planes more bodies, annoying yes murder no.
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