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03-03-2016, 06:13 PM
#1211
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
If they need the money bad enough they at least have the option. Its their choice whether they want the time off or money. I want them to have Endeavor type bonuses not less than half of that.
03-03-2016, 06:15 PM
#1213
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 200
Originally Posted by CLT Guy
OK. I am done. I am embarrassed to work at the same company as you. I am embarrassed for your family and feel sorry that they have to put up with you.
I pray that God will be merciful on your soul. You have serious issues and I hope that you find peace.
I pray that God will be merciful on your soul. You have serious issues and I hope that you find peace.
03-03-2016, 06:25 PM
#1214
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Posts: 46
Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
Actually he isn't.
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03-03-2016, 06:31 PM
#1215
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 200
Originally Posted by YNWA1892
Well my bad then. Still advocating that some how should have to choose between only having 6 days off and money is in poor form. We all know we can work more and make more and have less free time. But tell their kids sorry your daddy can't see you and buy you food.
03-03-2016, 06:47 PM
#1216
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Posts: 46
Originally Posted by FourPutt
Time vs money is a decision factor in almost everything. Why even take the job in the first place if it doesn't feed your kids? Especially when other companies are paying twice as much for the same work. Any FO that is having serious financial difficulties should go to Endeavor or Commutair immediately, even XJT and SKW give bonuses for CRJ typed pilots.
03-03-2016, 07:24 PM
#1217
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 323
Originally Posted by CLT Guy
The selfish captains couldn't accept that they FO's were getting pay raises. The captains threw a brat attack, and said that if everyone didn't get a raise, then no one will. That is what happened. You are just to selfish to see it.
(and have you seen the age of the new hires in the last year, I bet the class average age is 35+).
If someone is drowning, I am going to grab the first thing that I can find that floats and throw it to them, and then try to find something better. Be it a basketball or a CRJ200 seat cushion. Your argument is that the drowning person should not get the first thing that floats that may save their lives, they should hold out for a shiny, brand new life jacket. All that person wants is something to help them until they are able to help themselves. And you are denying it. You would rather that they drown than to accept less than something perfect.
Try looking at it objectively.
There is a pilot shortage and first year FO pay sucks. It just changed. They just got a $10k pay raise, and it was taken away by the captains that they are flying with because they wanted to make more as well.
(and have you seen the age of the new hires in the last year, I bet the class average age is 35+).
If someone is drowning, I am going to grab the first thing that I can find that floats and throw it to them, and then try to find something better. Be it a basketball or a CRJ200 seat cushion. Your argument is that the drowning person should not get the first thing that floats that may save their lives, they should hold out for a shiny, brand new life jacket. All that person wants is something to help them until they are able to help themselves. And you are denying it. You would rather that they drown than to accept less than something perfect.
Try looking at it objectively.
There is a pilot shortage and first year FO pay sucks. It just changed. They just got a $10k pay raise, and it was taken away by the captains that they are flying with because they wanted to make more as well.
03-03-2016, 07:39 PM
#1218
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: Cl65 left
Posts: 175
The unions provide a base level of protection and services within this industry. Other than that pilots are basically on there own within there respective seniority standing within each group. Each relative seniority peer group will compete for items within a TA or contract which benefits them the most. These groups or individuals will rationalize there points of view to fit their particular situation. That's the way it is, and that's the way it will always be. Pilots at the bottom of the list want everything, and pilots at the top of list want everything. And you will want everything at every point of the list you are on at the expense of all the other people you work with.
Last edited by T1000; 03-03-2016 at 07:50 PM.
03-03-2016, 08:34 PM
#1219
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 87
Originally Posted by T1000
The unions provide a base level of protection and services within this industry. Other than that pilots are basically on there own within there respective seniority standing within each group. Each relative seniority peer group will compete for items within a TA or contract which benefits them the most. These groups or individuals will rationalize there points of view to fit their particular situation. That's the way it is, and that's the way it will always be. Pilots at the bottom of the list want everything, and pilots at the top of list want everything. And you will want everything at every point of the list you are on at the expense of all the other people you work with.
They difference is I don't deny you bc it didn't include me.
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