PSA info
#2231
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 480
Likes: 0
This petty bickering between the WOs is getting really old. We are all being played against each other and it's so obvious. But it's covered up by this stupid arguing and fighting that AAG is loving it and benefiting from it. Our MEC chairs have figured this out and are finally starting to work together for the better. Why can't the pilot groups realize this and quit the BS, and finally start coming together and backing each other up for once. Be the difference and make it start happening, now. Otherwise pilots will continue to lose while everyone else wins.
#2232
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
Epic comeback. Your insight and rebuttal are simply amazing. How many years have you been lied to but this time it's different. Does she say she loves you after she beats you?
I'm the dumb newbie and you're the super senior old guy who couldn't figure out how to move on to bigger and better things. I'll give your "expertise" the weight it deserves.
I'm the dumb newbie and you're the super senior old guy who couldn't figure out how to move on to bigger and better things. I'll give your "expertise" the weight it deserves.
#2233
We'll happily take them back.
Welcome to the party of getting lied to BTW. How does it feel to not get what you guys want? Once one WO takes a deal not like AAG is gonna feel bad for the other ones if they don't want it. Oh we want everyone to have a bonus!, AAG will just look at the ENY-er's and say they took it so thats the deal.
Think back to everything all 3 WO's recieved in the last year. 135/121 bonus, Cadet Program, signing money, ipads, on and on.
Welcome to the party of getting lied to BTW. How does it feel to not get what you guys want? Once one WO takes a deal not like AAG is gonna feel bad for the other ones if they don't want it. Oh we want everyone to have a bonus!, AAG will just look at the ENY-er's and say they took it so thats the deal.
Think back to everything all 3 WO's recieved in the last year. 135/121 bonus, Cadet Program, signing money, ipads, on and on.
#2234
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
Epic comeback. Your insight and rebuttal are simply amazing. How many years have you been lied to but this time it's different. Does she say she loves you after she beats you?
I'm the dumb newbie and you're the super senior old guy who could figure out how to move on to bigger and better things. I'll give your "expertise" the weight it deserves.
I'm the dumb newbie and you're the super senior old guy who could figure out how to move on to bigger and better things. I'll give your "expertise" the weight it deserves.
#2235
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
I'm fine where I'm at. I get the schedules I want. I've had every major holiday off. The crews are great. I live in a cheap base. I just don't trust our management to make the right decision and stay on par with the industry. I've got a secret for you. Envoy's strings are being pulled by the same wizard.
#2236
I realize that PSA management is not entirely culpable for the follies that this company has recently suffered, (and currently suffers). They are merely puppets for the masters at AAG. But it's been amazing to watch the leaders of this company make one poor decision after another, repeatedly stepping on there own d1ck, usually at the direction of Dougie and his brain-trust of minions.
PSA was the envy of the regional airline world for the better part of 2 years. They managed to overcome, but got a bit of a black eye for a bad start, out the gate, by not properly staffing the training department. Then they decided to close the flood gates on new f/o's entering the airline in favor of hiring street Captains and they never recovered from the f/o hiring hiatus. The street Captain training caused another training backlog and the displacement of f/o's (for Captain I.O.E.s) prevented a lot of f/o's from reaching their 1000 SIC hours required for their upgrade, which caused an additional need for more street Captains, which further delayed the resumed hiring of new f/o's. So in order to entice new f/o's to join PSA, management decided to offer ever-increasing hiring bonuses instead of simply increasing pay, across the board. This served only to alienated/anger their best recruiting tool,..... their pilots! Follow that with an offer to give annual bonuses to only 1/2 of the pilot group and they set off another round of divisive pi$sing and moaning among an already disgruntled pilot group. And as a finale', they have not announced a Captain upgrade class since February!
Now PSA is again in reactionary mode, (reacting to their own self-induced crisis, - a.k.a. "d1ck stepping") by metering-down the flow,..... further demonstrating to the potential new hire that this probably isn't the place to start your 121 airline career!
Someone mentioned earlier that the pilots have advised management of the mistakes that they were making, yet management continued to ignore our input/warnings. You get the feeling that if the pilots told management that grass is green, the company would react by declaring that henceforth all grass will be considered purple!
What the company is doing, (re: delayed flows), is perfectly legal, per our contract. But it sends the wrong message. And it's likely the wrong thing to do,...... again! But why stop stepping on your own d1ck now? It looks like you're starting to like it!
PSA was the envy of the regional airline world for the better part of 2 years. They managed to overcome, but got a bit of a black eye for a bad start, out the gate, by not properly staffing the training department. Then they decided to close the flood gates on new f/o's entering the airline in favor of hiring street Captains and they never recovered from the f/o hiring hiatus. The street Captain training caused another training backlog and the displacement of f/o's (for Captain I.O.E.s) prevented a lot of f/o's from reaching their 1000 SIC hours required for their upgrade, which caused an additional need for more street Captains, which further delayed the resumed hiring of new f/o's. So in order to entice new f/o's to join PSA, management decided to offer ever-increasing hiring bonuses instead of simply increasing pay, across the board. This served only to alienated/anger their best recruiting tool,..... their pilots! Follow that with an offer to give annual bonuses to only 1/2 of the pilot group and they set off another round of divisive pi$sing and moaning among an already disgruntled pilot group. And as a finale', they have not announced a Captain upgrade class since February!
Now PSA is again in reactionary mode, (reacting to their own self-induced crisis, - a.k.a. "d1ck stepping") by metering-down the flow,..... further demonstrating to the potential new hire that this probably isn't the place to start your 121 airline career!
Someone mentioned earlier that the pilots have advised management of the mistakes that they were making, yet management continued to ignore our input/warnings. You get the feeling that if the pilots told management that grass is green, the company would react by declaring that henceforth all grass will be considered purple!
What the company is doing, (re: delayed flows), is perfectly legal, per our contract. But it sends the wrong message. And it's likely the wrong thing to do,...... again! But why stop stepping on your own d1ck now? It looks like you're starting to like it!
#2237
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
You say it like your turns not coming. How are those new hire classes going? Still shrinking? Still getting your flow metered? You guys are this summers day labor. Yup, it must be amazing at Envoy. Honestly, I hope it turns around for you guys, "me too" clauses work both ways.
#2238
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
Was that seriously a variation of nanny, nanny, boo, boo? I guess with your age and eyesight 2 lines in a struggle. So you can't read for very long and your judgement stinks. Yup. Now I know why you're still at a regional. Good thing you have that bullet proof flow.
I'm fine where I'm at. I get the schedules I want. I've had every major holiday off. The crews are great. I live in a cheap base. I just don't trust our management to make the right decision and stay on par with the industry. I've got a secret for you. Envoy's strings are being pulled by the same wizard.
I'm fine where I'm at. I get the schedules I want. I've had every major holiday off. The crews are great. I live in a cheap base. I just don't trust our management to make the right decision and stay on par with the industry. I've got a secret for you. Envoy's strings are being pulled by the same wizard.
#2239
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
Ok, 84 could mean anything. You're a shot nosed kid who thinks he knows everything. That makes it worse. Talk to me in 10 years when you've lived a little.
#2240
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
So according to your logic, one is either a snot-nosed kid or a geezer who can't get any other job...got it! I'm curious...as someone who took a job with a regional that has an awful reputation for screwing over other pilots, where do you fall in? Especially with your constant whining on here. You're clearly active on APC, so you could see the notorious reputation that PSA has built for itself over the past couple of years.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JetJock16
Regional
63
04-08-2016 05:05 PM




