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Old 12-30-2015 | 02:59 PM
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I hope our union doesn't go behind our backs and authorize a bonus/raise for the new pilots. We brought up pay raises for 5 years in contract negotiations. The company didn't think they were necessary. It's time they live with what they negotiated. They need to honor our critical pay/SDO and until then the negotiating table is closed.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 03:14 PM
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AF Guard bum here; been a member for a few years, but never really spent much time in the forum and don't know a ton about civilian flying/hiring processes/jargon/etc., so I'm doing my research. I'm looking at trying to go Regional to boost some hours and get some 121 experience for the future, but would obviously prefer to stay close to the civilian flying hub AND home, if possible... which leads to my initial questions:

Does CVG being a new base mean that a new hire would have a pretty good chance at bidding it right away?

Does it appear that CVG would hang around for a while, all things considered, or could even a new base get shut down relatively quickly?

Thanks in advance, and PM me if that works better...
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Old 12-30-2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gold
Right now they're only getting about 10 new hires a month and talking about parking airplanes. 48 new hires a month is flat out not going to happen unless pay was dramatically raised. Everyone hired recently is experiencing lots of reserve and stagnation due to very few coming in below them.
Your numbers are not accurate . The last class alone had 18 . The next class on Monday has about 20, I think . There were only a few classes that had around 10 per class , even so that is 20 a month . They slowed it down some for the holidays . Expect to see bigger classes moving forward .
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Old 12-30-2015 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stamfordblue7
AF Guard bum here; been a member for a few years, but never really spent much time in the forum and don't know a ton about civilian flying/hiring processes/jargon/etc., so I'm doing my research. I'm looking at trying to go Regional to boost some hours and get some 121 experience for the future, but would obviously prefer to stay close to the civilian flying hub AND home, if possible... which leads to my initial questions:

Does CVG being a new base mean that a new hire would have a pretty good chance at bidding it right away?

Does it appear that CVG would hang around for a while, all things considered, or could even a new base get shut down relatively quickly?

Thanks in advance, and PM me if that works better...
new hires are holing CVG out of training including myself . How stable CVG is going to be, idk .... It's going to be a big 900 Mx base, if that means anything to you . If I had to guess ... I don't think it's going to disappear anytime soon . I think it's going to grow as more 900s get delivered.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hc0fitted
new hires are holing CVG out of training including myself . How stable CVG is going to be, idk .... It's going to be a big 900 Mx base, if that means anything to you . If I had to guess ... I don't think it's going to disappear anytime soon . I think it's going to grow as more 900s get delivered.
How long is it looking for new guys in CVG to at least hold long call reserve?
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Old 12-30-2015 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hc0fitted
Your numbers are not accurate . The last class alone had 18 . The next class on Monday has about 20, I think . There were only a few classes that had around 10 per class , even so that is 20 a month . They slowed it down some for the holidays . Expect to see bigger classes moving forward .
Slowing down for the holidays means, "we can't fill classes so we will tell everyone we planned for the classes to be smaller for the holidays rather them telling the truth."

They also like to boast the artificial class size number. 18 in a "indoc" class which 3 might be sim instructors, another 2 or 3 ground instructors, a couple of dispatchers and only around 10 FOs that will go through the full training foot print from indoc to IOE. Of those 10, at least 1 or 2 will not be around in 6 months.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gold
Slowing down for the holidays means, "we can't fill classes so we will tell everyone we planned for the classes to be smaller for the holidays rather them telling the truth."

They also like to boast the artificial class size number. 18 in a "indoc" class which 3 might be sim instructors, another 2 or 3 ground instructors, a couple of dispatchers and only around 10 FOs that will go through the full training foot print from indoc to IOE. Of those 10, at least 1 or 2 will not be around in 6 months.
Last class was 18 pilots, and 6 "others".

As far as attracting new pilots, we will all find out in January when full time hiring kicks in again. The hiring for the last couple months has been for either DEC's or well qualified candidates to keep the ground/sim instructors employees while allowing the LCA's to catch up and reduce the training footprint through IOE.

As of now, the IOE backlog as been eliminated, and there are over 100 LCA's.

That all means nothing if PSA is not able to hire in January. With the $5000 hiring bonus, it is pretty evident that they needed help hiring, and everyone knows that $5000 is not enough to draw people to PSA.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stamfordblue7
AF Guard bum here; been a member for a few years, but never really spent much time in the forum and don't know a ton about civilian flying/hiring processes/jargon/etc., so I'm doing my research. I'm looking at trying to go Regional to boost some hours and get some 121 experience for the future, but would obviously prefer to stay close to the civilian flying hub AND home, if possible... which leads to my initial questions:

Does CVG being a new base mean that a new hire would have a pretty good chance at bidding it right away?

Does it appear that CVG would hang around for a while, all things considered, or could even a new base get shut down relatively quickly?

Thanks in advance, and PM me if that works better...
As of right now, there are no pilots on reserve in CVG. Everyone there is a line holder. That will likely change as new hires are sent there, but it is an understaffed junior base.

Most all of the CVG flying is just CLT or DAY flying that was taken for some unknown reason. CVG as a base makes little sense with DAY so close. Hopefully they will close DAY and move everything to CVG, including all off the corporate operations. The old Comair buildings would be perfect.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
As of right now, there are no pilots on reserve in CVG. Everyone there is a line holder. That will likely change as new hires are sent there, but it is an understaffed junior base.

Most all of the CVG flying is just CLT or DAY flying that was taken for some unknown reason. CVG as a base makes little sense with DAY so close. Hopefully they will close DAY and move everything to CVG, including all off the corporate operations. The old Comair buildings would be perfect.
By answering his question you answered mine as well. Thank you!
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Old 12-31-2015 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gold
Right now they're only getting about 10 new hires a month and talking about parking airplanes. 48 new hires a month is flat out not going to happen unless pay was dramatically raised. Everyone hired recently is experiencing lots of reserve and stagnation due to very few coming in below them.
Don't know where you are getting that information from. I know nothing about PSA parking airplanes anytime soon. If anything American would just stop the delivery of 900's if we can't staff them.
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