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Old 06-30-2016, 03:57 PM
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So the company is offering critical pay for the 4th of July weekend but for some reason FLICA isn't coding it correctly. Maybe that reason is because the company is continually manipulating the grid to prevent having to pay for days that should be critical.

Critical pay at PSA is 150%, which is what many other regionals pay for regular open time. Many other regionals pay 200% for days that are deemed critical. Once again PSA management has determined that their pilots are worth less than the pilots at other airlines

Also if you decide to pick up some "critical" pay, don't forget to do the additional paperwork and then watch your paycheck like a hawk to make sure payroll didn't make an "inadvertent" mistake and underpay you.

Seems like a lot of extra work for a day that could be spent celebrating with friends and family.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:22 PM
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Critical is 150% and a minimum of 4 hours (so 6 hours of regular pay). If you pick up a trip that has any 1 day as critical on your day off the whole trip is critical. I'm not sure if other companies will pay an entire trip at critical or just the one day.

There was a company email and union email about the glitch in FLICA.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot View Post
Critical is 150% and a minimum of 4 hours (so 6 hours of regular pay). If you pick up a trip that has any 1 day as critical on you day off the whole trip is critical. I'm not sure if other companies will pay an entire trip at critical or just the one day.

There was a company email and union email about the glitch in FLICA.
Right. At endeavor regular open time is 150% and everyday is a 4 hour min day with no carve outs. So PSA is offering our pilots for a few days what Endeavor pilots get everyday. Also endeavor pilots don't have to do extra paperwork to get their pay and they have a competent payroll department.

So you can pretend you're an endeavor pilot for a day. Well minus the additional 18k per year they get.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SEPfield View Post
Right. At endeavor regular open time is 150% and everyday is a 4 hour min day with no carve outs. So PSA is offering our pilots for a few days what Endeavor pilots get everyday. Also endeavor pilots don't have to do extra paperwork to get their pay and they have a competent payroll department.

So you can pretend you're an endeavor pilot for a day. Well minus the additional 18k per year they get.
Wasn't trying to sell just keep it accurate.

Yes, the fact that we have to remind them to pay us for the extra work is a joke. Hell we have to remind them to pay us correctly for our awarded lines.

Edit: Don't Endeavor pilots get $20/23k not $18k?

Edit:Edit: PDT is offer 300% pay. A fraternity brother credit 360 hours in a month at $80+ an hour. He's made more than mainline pilots for a few months now.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:35 PM
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To bad not to many fish are taking the bait, being that all 3 w/o's cannot hire enough just to meet attrition never mind any growth.

At envoy just so aag can help out skywest, skw was given a bunch of midday flying once envoy's just so skw can run day trips to save money from paying perdiem and hotels so skw can show a profit from there aag contract.
At which hub is this happening? I'm curious to look.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot View Post
Wasn't trying to sell just keep it accurate.

Yes, the fact that we have to remind them to pay us for the extra work is a joke. Hell we have to remind them to pay us correctly for our awarded lines.

Edit: Don't Endeavor pilots get $20/23k not $18k?

Edit:Edit: PDT is offer 300% pay. A fraternity brother credit 360 hours in a month at $80+ an hour. He's made more than mainline pilots for a few months now.
300%? holy ****. is that contractual? or just PDT mgmt asking for help?
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy View Post
300%? holy ****. is that contractual? or just PDT mgmt asking for help?
Mgmt on their knees begging for help. 200% and 300% trips. He's on the 145 so it might only be a handful of people.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot View Post

Edit: Don't Endeavor pilots get $20/23k not $18k?
Yes Endeavor gets 23k per year. PSA FOs get 10k over 2 years or 5k per year. 23-5=18k additional.

Admittedly I could have phrased my statement better.
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SEPfield View Post
Yes Endeavor gets 23k per year. PSA FOs get 10k over 2 years or 5k per year. 23-5=18k additional.

Admittedly I could have phrased my statement better.
Gotcha now. No biggie.

If our checks show up since there's been nothing about the bonuses other than the announcement. They might require a reminder.
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SEPfield View Post
Right. At endeavor regular open time is 150% and everyday is a 4 hour min day with no carve outs. So PSA is offering our pilots for a few days what Endeavor pilots get everyday. Also endeavor pilots don't have to do extra paperwork to get their pay and they have a competent payroll department.

So you can pretend you're an endeavor pilot for a day. Well minus the additional 18k per year they get.
We used to have that system here. I know not many at PSA right now got to enjoy it but when run properly our critical pay system is LIGHT YEARS beyond just the simple 150% for open time pickups. Keep in mind that you can get an entire trip payed at critical pay WITHOUT LOSING ANY DAYS OFF. That is the big kicker. The potential money to be made is far far far higher than just having 150% for picking up a day off.
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