If you have a flight at 6am, you need to be listed for 2 flights the night before that there is a reasonable chance that you will get on. That is it.

If there is a 6pm and an 8pm the night before, you need to be listed on those with seats available 24 hours before. So, just list for the flights a few days our. Check the status of seats the day before. If there are seats, and you still miss both of those, you are covered.

Or, just do what everyone else does. List for one flight. If you don't make it, call in sick.

 

Is this the contractual language that our union agreed to or is this just another case of the company "tweaking" the contract to suit THEIR purposes?

 

Makes no sense why they put the commuter clause in with the email.

 

And what I don't understand is why does it say you "have" to list for 2 flight in our books but NRTP travel policy prohibits you from listing on more than one flight from the same departure city to the same destination on the same day. I have had LAA agents remove me from other listings due that policy and threaten me with reporting it to AA and blah blah blah. But then again, is in our commuter policy, so what do you do?

 

Tell them they are wrong and then show them the commuter policy.

 

Yes this is correct.

 

I live in base, and only commute occasionally for trips that I pick up in other bases that are better than the ones in my base.

Personally, I list for the earlier of the two flights, and then take a screen shot the day before to show that there are seats open on 2 flights. If I don't make the first one, I will automatically be rolled to the next one. I had this happen once. I called the crew scheduling supervisor and told her what was going on and that I didn't want to list for 2 flights due to AA's policy, but I listed for the earlier one. She took a look at the loads and gave me a positive space seat on the second one so I would be sure to make the flight.

I don't know what normally happens, but as long as you are not screwing around with the company, I think they will see it for what it is. If you only list for the later one, and do not call until after you miss it, they will likely burn you. If you list for the earlier one, and then get rolled to the next one - just call before you miss that one too.

 

This. A little common sense goes a long way.

Also, the AA non-rev policy is that if you miss your first flight you will automatically get rolled to the next one with your original check in time.

For example, list for a 10AM flight, check in 24 hours prior. You miss the flight, but there's another one at 1130AM. Everyone that listed for the 1130AM flight could only have checked in 24 hours prior, but as you got rolled over from the previous flight your check in time still shows as 10AM, thereby giving you a measure of super seniority within your category.

 

Wasn't the commuter policy written when the USAirways non-rev system was still in effect?

 

Dayton, Cincinnatti, and Knoxville were recently listed among America's 50 worst cities to live in based on socio-economic data and crime statistics. It's a wonder people aren't flocking to come work at a regional with low first year pay, a contract that would be okay if the company followed it but could be a lot better and is far from industry standard anymore, and a stagnated seniority list. What a joke. Maybe they should have opened an actual desirable and commutable hub base instead of Cincinnatti... Almost every major city in Ohio was on the 50 worst list.