Huh,
I keep trying, it’s not for lack of effort though my friend. I think the only thing missing is banked days and trips touching though. Maybe we can fix it together, maybe not, still a pretty good job from where I sit. Sorry your east coast base closed!

This thread makes me sad. Big thanks to the VX guys who let me sit on the 2nd jumpseat to get home to see my 2 year old son. You both made a really special weekend with my son during training possible. He was so happy. Cool guys who were kind to an wide eyed AS pilot.


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Don’t let these threads shape your outlook on AS. This is mostly a minority of very vocal, polar opposites, venting their frustrations. (over and over and over.....) 99.9% of both groups are moving on and accepting this is just another day in the life of an airline pilot. I’ve had some great conversations and interactions with VX guys and look forward to working with them to take AS to the next level. Welcome to the company and rest assured, the dust will settle and there will be unity in the coming days, months, years.

I understand you’re trying to be positive, but let’s get real: this company is going nowhere fast

It’s not so much about being positive as I’m just not being purposefully negative. I don’t see things as dire as you do. Slowing growth to 4%, not what I want to hear but I get why. We’re still in the middle of an acquisition and it takes longer then a year to capitalize on the deal. Lowering the projected hiring numbers, not what I want to hear but I guess when only a small percentage of people who threatened to leave actually do, they don’t need as many new pilots. Closing bases, well, even you guys have admitted that the writing was on the wall for a long time on that one. I look beyond what’s happening here to other mergers and acquisitions and see it will take some time to realize the potential. I don’t know how long you were at VX but did you show up to work every day angry when they were losing money or did you keep a level head until things started to turn the corner? Why get spun up over things we have absolutely no control over? The only lever you can pull right now is to leave and if you’re not willing to do that, then you have to accept what’s happening and ride the ride.

I love how expectations have slid from "Smoothest Merger Ever™" to "Hey, at least you're not TWA!"

I appreciate trying to remain positive, but I feel that AS pilots have a conditioned higher tolerance to career struggles than most. And it's not healthy. That sort of condition is how contracts get passed without scope clauses.

When management's lips are moving, they are lying.
I really don't think you have a leg to stand on criticizing this pilot group. Think pot calling kettle black. Y'all went to work for a start up non-unionized LCC willing to work for lower than average total compensation package without a contract for your entire existence.

Well aren't we just two peas in a pod then!

I don’t think anyone at AS fell for the “smoothest merger ever” shtick. I’m pretty sure everyone knew the day it was announced it was going to be a long exhausting experience for all involved. Did you buy into their b.s.? Is that why you’re so cynical? Because if you’re expecting immediate results after a $2.5 billion acquisition and merger of two totally different companies it seems like maybe you did buy into BnB’s propaganda and are now disappointed it hasn’t played out like they promised. We can go back and forth all day and night about the future of AS. You saying we’re doomed and me saying we’ll be fine. The true lies somewhere in the middle. AS will continue to experience highs and lows, just like every airline, that ever was, has experienced them. Things are changing and from where you sit, it seems like for the worse because what was familiar to you is now gone. However, from where I sit, I see company working to break out of the small niche market that we’ve succeeded in for 85 years, and bring that success to a larger audience. Short term pain for long term gain right? We have one job at this company and that’s to fly the jet safely. I’m not in marketing, I’m not in sales, I’m not in RnD, I’m not in HR, I’m not in management, I’m in the font of the plane with my feet up, drinking my coffee, thinking about how to improve the contract in a yr and a half. All this other stuff is just noise. I can’t speak for any contract passed here and the dynamics of how things used to get done are from a long bygone era. I don’t know about this precondition to career tolerance. However, please quote VX’s section 1 scope clause so I can compare it to AS’.......I’ll wait.

Are you saying that alaskan actually has scope language?