Skywest
#9911
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
So, when I am in indoc and I don't get SFO and I tell them, sorry, no can do, what goes on the PRIA? An insolent fire starting, upstart Rasputin, which will haunt and hold me back forever? Or what? Any ideas?
I am beginning to see the light though. Probably rather than award a base before the class, like they could, maybe they will stick with what they have. I fully understand the senior people wanting to change their domiciles and not getting in their way, but the slots after that are what I am talking about. They could rearrange that process and get more people into their classes. But if they aren't willing to be creative, all the while not stepping on more senior pilots, then maybe they are not so bright. I am in no way shocked, this sort of mentality (among other lapses) seems to have gotten them where they are as far as pilot staffing.
I am beginning to see the light though. Probably rather than award a base before the class, like they could, maybe they will stick with what they have. I fully understand the senior people wanting to change their domiciles and not getting in their way, but the slots after that are what I am talking about. They could rearrange that process and get more people into their classes. But if they aren't willing to be creative, all the while not stepping on more senior pilots, then maybe they are not so bright. I am in no way shocked, this sort of mentality (among other lapses) seems to have gotten them where they are as far as pilot staffing.
Only training failures go on your pria, not incomplete. But it is in bad form to quit without giving at least two weeks notice. And it may be a requirement to not get a "would not rehire" check box marked. In fact, they would probably check that box regardless. Not a big deal until your next airline request your employment information. And probably still not a big deal at the next regional but it might come into question when moving on to the "dream" airline, unless you can give a good explanation.
#9912
Only training failures go on your pria, not incomplete. But it is in bad form to quit without giving at least two weeks notice. And it may be a requirement to not get a "would not rehire" check box marked. In fact, they would probably check that box regardless. Not a big deal until your next airline request your employment information. And probably still not a big deal at the next regional but it might come into question when moving on to the "dream" airline, unless you can give a good explanation.
"They will torch your PRIA. Incomplete training. Good night sweet prince. Get in line like a man and deal with it you lazy punk."
#9913
Look, there are ups and downs in the airline industry. Both at mainline and at regionals. When the tide was rising Comair got a really good contract, then it was ACA, then xjt, then air Wisconsin, then xjt again, then horizon. At that point the tide turned. Skywest CERTAINLY would've been up there with their hundreds of millions of dollars in profit. Skywest has been the most profitable regional in history, more so than any of the other ones I just mentioned that each raised the bar when it was their turn. If you don't think that Skywest pilots would've ever gotten a contract that was at least comparable to the top contract, then I don't know what to tell you. And now, almost every single regional is increasing their pilot cost by offering better and better compensation packages. Yet many of them are not even close to the profitability that Skywest currently has. I'm not saying that pilot unions are all powerful at all. Many of them have weak pilots in their MECs leading them. And dispute that, some of them are making gains. Now is the time to use some of that leverage to get up there in the top tier. If you don't think that you can do that with a pilot union at Skywest, then you are saying your pilots are not good enough to achieve it. I personally think they can if they were union. And that would help all the rest of us.
Anyway, of course it would be ideal if there was a single seniority list and one regional pilot Union. But the perfect shouldn't get in the way of the "better than what we have now." It honestly sounds like a convenient excuse to not be for a pilot union. I think it's a cop out since it'll almost certainly ever happen.
Anyway, of course it would be ideal if there was a single seniority list and one regional pilot Union. But the perfect shouldn't get in the way of the "better than what we have now." It honestly sounds like a convenient excuse to not be for a pilot union. I think it's a cop out since it'll almost certainly ever happen.
#9914
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 1,174
Chazbird, just a little fyi, SkyWest awards transfers on a monthly basis. You could get assigned MSP or ORD in training and then get a transfer a month later to SFO. As long as training is taking you may never spend a day back east or perhaps just a month or two.
Taking a quick look at the standing bids there aren't a while lot of pilots wanting it for the CRJ, however there are a bunch that want it on the 175.
You're not locked into a domicile and can change monthly if you wanted to -- assuming you have the seniority and there are openings.
Taking a quick look at the standing bids there aren't a while lot of pilots wanting it for the CRJ, however there are a bunch that want it on the 175.
You're not locked into a domicile and can change monthly if you wanted to -- assuming you have the seniority and there are openings.
#9915
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 15
Currently, how long does it take to be awarded SLC out of training? How long to hold a line in SLC out of training? Does anyone have approximate timelines?
#9916
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: I pilot
Posts: 2,049
Hire Date Months
FO in ORD 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in MSP 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in SFO 11/20/2014 5 months
FO in IAH 11/17/2014 5 months
FO in DEN 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in COS 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in LAX 9/22/2014 7 months
FO in SEA 7/28/2014 9 Months
FO in SLC 4/28/2014 1 year
FO in PHX 11/25/2013 1 year 5 months
Months are based on from date of hire.
FO in ORD 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in MSP 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in SFO 11/20/2014 5 months
FO in IAH 11/17/2014 5 months
FO in DEN 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in COS 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in LAX 9/22/2014 7 months
FO in SEA 7/28/2014 9 Months
FO in SLC 4/28/2014 1 year
FO in PHX 11/25/2013 1 year 5 months
Months are based on from date of hire.
#9917
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 1,174
SLC has a number of pilots wanting to transfer in. It could be a while.
#9918
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 15
Hire Date Months
FO in ORD 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in MSP 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in SFO 11/20/2014 5 months
FO in IAH 11/17/2014 5 months
FO in DEN 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in COS 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in LAX 9/22/2014 7 months
FO in SEA 7/28/2014 9 Months
FO in SLC 4/28/2014 1 year
FO in PHX 11/25/2013 1 year 5 months
Months are based on from date of hire.
FO in ORD 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in MSP 1/26/2015 3 months
FO in SFO 11/20/2014 5 months
FO in IAH 11/17/2014 5 months
FO in DEN 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in COS 10/20/2014 6 months
FO in LAX 9/22/2014 7 months
FO in SEA 7/28/2014 9 Months
FO in SLC 4/28/2014 1 year
FO in PHX 11/25/2013 1 year 5 months
Months are based on from date of hire.
#9920
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 1,174
It's hard to say. It all depends on how many FOs in SLC upgrade/transfer, etc. SLC as a domicile has been getting smaller over the past 3 years. Hopefully it wont shrink anymore. There are currently about 30 pilots with it as there first choice in a transfer.
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