I have seen this band in Oslo, Norway. I am not a fan though!

"IT" gets a kick out of us expending energy on it. We should just ignore "IT" so that it scurries back into the sewers where "IT" belongs.

 

This industry (or any industry for that matter) is not about what we are worth. It’s about what we negotiate. And for a new hire Skywest pilot, the best way to negotiate is with your feet. I see ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with a new hire pilot with no type ratings or turbine time getting $100k. If endeavor or someone else is willing to pay that, then more power to those pilots.

You should be happy for your fellow colleague.


Yeah, it’s none of your business if this pilot wants to go to another regional and cite the better pay. I would say it’s absolutely ridiculous for anyone to blame pilots for making that decision, the only one that management can’t do anything about!


Don’t say that to amcd! I’m still waiting on him to comment on this considering the new endeavor TA (which he poo-pooed) was ratified.

 

So....with your theory Delta used Comair to lower the bar and get the Regional flying the cheapest possible, right?
Do you now claim that the same Delta is using Endevour to raise the cost for pilot’s att the Regional level? Why would Delta want more expensive Regional flying? You are wrong and you know it. You also know that everything you write is to back whatever management is doing at any given moment. You do not hold the pilot’s interests first and you prove it over and over. Your management that you so eaguer believe you support is disconnected with the current times and Chip and all other that are trying to maximize the profits by saving on crew salaries will very well taking this company down. The bigger we are the harder we fall and the only thing that I believe can take Skywest down is Staffing issues. If you do not see that in today’s Regional market then you are completely disconnected with reality. Claiming that we are painting Endevour as an ideal company has no substance or meaning and fills no purpose. Endevour TA is what Skywest will have to compete with and that is now reality. You will have no profit at all if you do not understand that you need pilot’s to produce that. Open your eyes. We are not against the company, on the contrary we care and would like to save it from dumb disconnected people that will if they continue put our jobs and Company in question.

 

Sounds like management has the best of both worlds with this arrangement. They have pilots locked into a five year deal but get to change it on a whim to suit only the pilots it suits them to throw temporary bonuses.

So why do you guys continue to do this every time?

 

I think there will be a bit of an uproar if they start offering crazy big new hire only bonuses with nothing for the pilots already on property since in June management was saying Endeavors bonuses don’t count and how they Skywest doesn’t want to do any type of bonus programs like that.

 

We traded 100 aircraft growth for this.. some could consider that a quality of life improvement and advancement... im my base and seat I won’t see that until i go to the ERJ.. but when i do. It will definitely pay off with the growth in schedule and being able to get the vacation blocks i want.. it will come down to staffing, can we get the people As of now seems like we do. And the lure of 1 week captain upgrade is a bonus for anyone with 121 time. I still don’t see a drop in people interviewing.. honestly for me the Endeavor TA realy doesn’t make my pay look less. They onky go to 15 years $122hr 900. Im 20 on the 20 year $121... and i still get 10-15k in bonus.. they are done with bonuses... now someone on 5-10 year scale thats a different story...

 

Stuck mic in DTW today. Apparently one of our pilotos thinks ORD ground control is better than DTWs. Went on for at least 5 mins..quite a circus.

 

Truth hurts.

 

You need to read more of my resent post... regionals are “regionals” step that stone!! Get out!! Im part of that “lost generation” that basically got paused for 10 year. Actually worked out for me. Im a free bird soon. Kids grown, and time has come to move on. Glad i got stuck were i did.. go to the regional that best fits your life for the next 5 years. And move on plan and simple... im in the west so Endeavor pay wouldn’t temp me as a new guy. Geographics would.. because in 5 years the new guys will be at Majors. So who care what a 10 year Endeavor air captain makes.. (only the people that get stuck do)

 

Boy I've lost count of the number of guys I've met who only expected to be at an RJ for 5 years and were passing 10, 15 years. Sure plan for not needing that 15 year payrate, but nice to have in your back pocket.