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Old 08-12-2014 | 04:12 PM
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Thanks for the info regarding logbooks.
I guess I'll use my free time waiting for a call vs. typing in my logbook that they won't ask for
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Old 08-12-2014 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by UNK7
Has anyone heard about the Chief Pilot "pre screen" process? I got a call to re-send in my info, but nothing since. Don't want to nag them, but I'm thinking of pinging the guy who called me. If anyone has done this process, please advise.

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I did this with a buddy of mine a few weeks ago. I set the whole thing up with the Chief Pilot through his secretary and it took about 6 months to get an appointment. Having said that, the "first in first out" method of scheduling seems to have given way to "whatever you can work out with the secretary that saves the most time".

You should have minimal to zero impact on setting this up. It has to be done from the inside. Just make sure that your buddy has your availability dates and is working on it.
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Old 08-12-2014 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WestCoastHercs
Thanks for the info regarding logbooks.
I guess I'll use my free time waiting for a call vs. typing in my logbook that they won't ask for
I converted all of my military logbooks over to excel. As painful as that was (8 hours/day for about a week) it made filling out applications a thousand times easier. Every company has different data points that they want to see. Being able to filter them was well worth the effort.

For the interview, I printed out a smooth copy (with a detailed summary on top according to what they wanted to see) that backed up all of the logbooks (that I also brought with me and turned in).

This worked just fine for United, Atlas, and SWA.

Best of luck.
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Old 08-12-2014 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WestCoastHercs
Thanks for the info regarding logbooks.
I guess I'll use my free time waiting for a call vs. typing in my logbook that they won't ask for
They actually DID ask for my logbooks. While I was in the Sim portion of the interview, they went through them. Not sure how thoroughly, but when I began the HR portion the CA interviewing me commented something to the effect of "I went through your logbooks and they match the times on your application. You can have them back, I don't have any questions." I would spend your time waiting for the call getting your stuff in order and not leaving any question marks like that.

Also, when I showed up and met with Dorris the receptionist, there was another interview candidate there with me. She asked us each for our paperwork that was sent to us and then instructed us to read through every page of the application and initial the bottom of each page for accuracy. When I was done, she said "Your paperwork is all in order, have a seat and someone will be with you." To the other guy, she had to ask him MULTIPLE times to make corrections to the paperwork. Apparently he didn't follow the instructions to a T. I don't know if he got the job or not (we didn't exchange information) but I would not risk not having details like your logbook not up to date (regardless of the format) or not completing the paperwork correctly.

Take that for what its worth and good luck while you wait.
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Old 08-13-2014 | 07:16 AM
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Regarding logbooks for the military folks: I brought my HARM printout with all my flights as proof of my hours, but the main thing I gave was an excel spreadsheet I created from my Individual Flying History Summary--that's the 2-page summary of all your flying stuff for AF pilots (not sure what the other services call this). I probably spent a total of 4-6 hours tweaking this product to ensure it was as accurate as possible. My philosophy was to represent my hours as accurately as possible while still being conservative in my estimates--I think that made it clear I wasn't trying to inflate anything.

I did NOT go through all my flights and create a database or anything like that, and I don't recommend you do so either. I can't imagine how many hours that would've taken to accomplish. During the HR portion of my interview the CA thanked me for providing that and said it made his job much easier. I'm happy to share what I used via email with anyone who needs it.
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Old 08-13-2014 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DeuceMountain
Regarding logbooks for the military folks: I brought my HARM printout with all my flights as proof of my hours, but the main thing I gave was an excel spreadsheet I created from my Individual Flying History Summary--that's the 2-page summary of all your flying stuff for AF pilots (not sure what the other services call this). I probably spent a total of 4-6 hours tweaking this product to ensure it was as accurate as possible. My philosophy was to represent my hours as accurately as possible while still being conservative in my estimates--I think that made it clear I wasn't trying to inflate anything.

I did NOT go through all my flights and create a database or anything like that, and I don't recommend you do so either. I can't imagine how many hours that would've taken to accomplish. During the HR portion of my interview the CA thanked me for providing that and said it made his job much easier. I'm happy to share what I used via email with anyone who needs it.
I did the same with my mil flight time when I interviewed in '06. Not one issue. Put it in a small binder to make it look professional and I think they appreciated that as well.
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Old 08-13-2014 | 09:10 AM
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I interviewed in June of this year. The panel is given your logbooks while you finish paperwork in the lobby.

I had kept old school logbooks as well as printed off all my schedules for the last 6 years and kept them in a separate binder. I had three logbooks which I labeled on the front with a sticker 1-3 and noted the dates that the logbooks covered as well as the checkrides that were noted in the logbooks. I tabbed all my checkrides in the logbooks so they were easy to locate.
(I bought the stickers and labels from Staples)
All of these steps were probably not necessary but when I walked into the panel they started with: "Before we get to far along we want to thank you for your logbooks. They were very neat and organized. You made our life very easy and they were impressive. Thank you again."

I felt like I had the job before I even walked in the room just because of the way my logbooks looked. At a bare minimum it set the stage for the rest of the interview.
Hope this helps the people that are preparing.
Good Luck!!!
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Old 08-13-2014 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Where2go
I interviewed in June of this year. The panel is given your logbooks while you finish paperwork in the lobby.

I had kept old school logbooks as well as printed off all my schedules for the last 6 years and kept them in a separate binder. I had three logbooks which I labeled on the front with a sticker 1-3 and noted the dates that the logbooks covered as well as the checkrides that were noted in the logbooks. I tabbed all my checkrides in the logbooks so they were easy to locate.
(I bought the stickers and labels from Staples)
All of these steps were probably not necessary but when I walked into the panel they started with: "Before we get to far along we want to thank you for your logbooks. They were very neat and organized. You made our life very easy and they were impressive. Thank you again."

I felt like I had the job before I even walked in the room just because of the way my logbooks looked. At a bare minimum it set the stage for the rest of the interview.
Hope this helps the people that are preparing.
Good Luck!!!
This. I got the impression that solid presentation of your flying history is a big thing.

Oh, and military pilots: Don't forget your FEF or whatever the non-AF branches call your evaluation folder/checkride history. I brought the last five years of OPRs (FitReps?) as well, but nobody looked at them from what I could tell.
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Old 08-15-2014 | 05:19 PM
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After EWR (any type) what's the most junior base/equip? Is IAH737 shrinking while they grow the 320 there?
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Old 08-15-2014 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceMountain
...Don't forget your FEF ... I brought the last five years of OPRs (FitReps?) as well, but nobody looked at them from what I could tell.
No need for your FEF or OPRs. That's Delta. Bring what they ask for nothing more. Actually, you can bring what you want, but they'll absolutely only collect what they asked you to bring and you'll be left with a bunch of papers in your briefcase.
Good luck!
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