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Old 11-13-2014 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
No need for a job action that violates the law...Absolutely no need. With all of the acrimony their decision will invoke, the operation will fall apart on its own...nothing will be able to be proven. And that will not bode well for them.
There is nothing worse than an employee that does the bare minimum - especially in the airline industry. I hope they know that.
Like I said, this is a whole new ball game for them and I think they are severely underestimating the resolve of this pilot group.
They had a chance to lead, a la Delta, and blew it. I don't care how much of an "expert" Jerry Glass is - he doesn't know this group and has not dealt with them.
They wanted arbitration, now they're gonna get it...and probably cry about it when it doesn't pan out the way they expected it to.
If you really "BELIEVE" that then you guys need to get hired at Envoy.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Just like I thought... Rte66 hides behind the keyboard when asked the tough questions. Maybe he is related to tomahawk.
OK, chump, come out and give us your name and employee number!!

Who's hiding behind the keyboard NOW? Hypocrite.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Listen to this horse****.

Not many posters here have a consistent track record of successively more ridiculous posts. Congrats on your success !
Thanks for the encouragement!!
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Old 11-13-2014 | 02:45 PM
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Put my screen name on C&R and If you really are an AA pilot you'll have no trouble finding me and my employee #on C&R as I'm well known on there by my screen name as well as my real name.

How bout you, chump? You still haven't answered anyone on here as to whether you're really an AA pilot. I got my doubts.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
No need for a job action that violates the law...Absolutely no need. With all of the acrimony their decision will invoke, the operation will fall apart on its own...nothing will be able to be proven. And that will not bode well for them.
There is nothing worse than an employee that does the bare minimum - especially in the airline industry. I hope they know that.
Like I said, this is a whole new ball game for them and I think they are severely underestimating the resolve of this pilot group.
They had a chance to lead, a la Delta, and blew it. I don't care how much of an "expert" Jerry Glass is - he doesn't know this group and has not dealt with them.
They wanted arbitration, now they're gonna get it...and probably cry about it when it doesn't pan out the way they expected it to.
The last three Federal court injunctions prove you wrong, so feel free to "bring the rain":

238 F3d 1300 Delta Air Lines Inc v. Air Line Pilots Association International et al. | OpenJurist

228 F3d 574 American Airlines Inc v. Allied Pilots Association Richard T Lavoy Brian a Mayhew | OpenJurist

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/f...28,%202011.pdf
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Old 11-13-2014 | 02:53 PM
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1. The delta pilots stayed out of open time illegally and openly promoted it.

2. The AA pilots staged an illegal sickout.

3. USAPA also openly promoted their tactics which were deemed illegal.

Obviously you have trouble with reading comprehension. I'll outline my first two sentences in bold, as well as the key sentence that should help you understand.

No need for an illegal job action... Absolutely no need.

There is nothing worse than an employee that does the bare minimum, especially in the airline industry.

The rest is history. If you need examples of frustrated airline employees that were pushed into just doing their jobs and nothing more, read Hard Landing, Grounded-the destruction of Eastern Airlines, and Flying the Line, to name a few.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
1. The delta pilots stayed out of open time illegally and openly promoted it.

2. The AA pilots staged an illegal sickout.

3. USAPA also openly promoted their tactics which were deemed illegal.

Obviously you have trouble with reading comprehension. I'll outline my first two sentences in bold, as well as the key sentence that should help you understand.

No need for an illegal job action... Absolutely no need.

There is nothing worse than an employee that does the bare minimum, especially in the airline industry.

The rest is history. If you need examples of frustrated airline employees that were pushed into just doing their jobs and nothing more, read Hard Landing, Grounded-the destruction of Eastern Airlines, and Flying the Line, to name a few.
I've read them all. Flying the line vol. 1 & 2 especially. What I'm trying to say is that, having been at US Airways when their "bare minimum" was going on many pilots were called in for their actions and many were questioning whether a legitimate write up would get them a contempt of court order from Conrad. That's the truth of it because I was there. You were not. I have it on good authority that the APA pilots on their personal web board are advocating what you say there is no need for. I have NO trouble in reading comprehension and I know exactly what you are promoting: illegal job action with legal job action. Good luck with that.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Put my screen name on C&R and If you really are an AA pilot you'll have no trouble finding me and my employee #on C&R as I'm well known on there by my screen name as well as my real name.

How bout you, chump? You still haven't answered anyone on here as to whether you're really an AA pilot. I got my doubts.
What the heck is C&R anyway?
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Old 11-13-2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Put my screen name on C&R and If you really are an AA pilot you'll have no trouble finding me and my employee #on C&R as I'm well known on there by my screen name as well as my real name.

How bout you, chump? You still haven't answered anyone on here as to whether you're really an AA pilot. I got my doubts.
Oh, I'm not an AA pilot. I'm a US Airways pilot. Soon to be a new American pilot when single certificate comes next year, CHUMP.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Route66
Oh, I'm not an AA pilot. I'm a US Airways pilot. Soon to be a new American pilot when single certificate comes next year, CHUMP.
Well, there's no doubt which side of the Mississippi you're based on. Some people just refuse to play well with others.
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