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index 01-22-2014 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1564154)
Question for anyone who cares to chime...

My next 2 four man trips do not have 3 nights between them as required by far117. When should I bring this to scheduling's attention?

At pushback?

Timbo 01-22-2014 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1564154)
Question for anyone who cares to chime...

My next 2 four man trips do not have 3 nights between them as required by far117. When should I bring this to scheduling's attention?

I thought that was dependent on the total block time? Are they two Joburgs? I don't think DXB qualifies, but it's all new to me, so maybe...

I'd call DALPA Contract Admin and ask them first, they'll tell you how to play it with the Company. I know a buddy of mine dropped the 62hr. SIN trip and was paid for it this mo. because PBS gave it to him with less than three nights home between trips.

tsquare 01-22-2014 06:05 AM

Anybody know how long you have to wait to fly after donating blood? Is that in the FOM?

scambo1 01-22-2014 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1564161)
At pushback?

I want to enrich myself, not punish the company.:D

sailingfun 01-22-2014 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1564164)
I thought that was dependent on the total block time? Are they two Joburgs? I don't think DXB qualifies, but it's all new to me, so maybe...

I'd call DALPA Contract Admin and ask them first, they'll tell you how to play it with the Company. I know a buddy of mine dropped the 62hr. SIN trip and was paid for it this mo. because PBS gave it to him with less than three nights home between trips.


Here is the rule.

14 CFR Part 117 requires the company to provide a rest period of 56 hours minimum for flight duty periods or a series of flight duty periods that travel more than 60 degrees longitude and time away from home base is longer than 168 hours. The 56 hour minimum rest period must encompass three physiological nights’ rest based on home base local time.

scambo1 01-22-2014 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1564164)
I thought that was dependent on the total block time? Are they two Joburgs? I don't think DXB qualifies, but it's all new to me, so maybe...

I'd call DALPA Contract Admin and ask them first, they'll tell you how to play it with the Company. I know a buddy of mine dropped the 62hr. SIN trip and was paid for it this mo. because PBS gave it to him with less than three nights home between trips.

I'll do that. The new rules as they apply to us (777) are very cryptic.

scambo1 01-22-2014 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1564172)
Here is the rule.

14 CFR Part 117 requires the company to provide a rest period of 56 hours minimum for flight duty periods or a series of flight duty periods that travel more than 60 degrees longitude and time away from home base is longer than 168 hours. The 56 hour minimum rest period must encompass three physiological nights’ rest based on home base local time.

Disregard RTFA.

forgot to bid 01-22-2014 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1564165)
Anybody know how long you have to wait to fly after donating blood? Is that in the FOM?

New Hire Guide
January 19, 2014
Page 16

In addition to physical illness, per the FOM pilots will not report for duty within 24 hours of
receiving an immunization, donating blood or blood components, donating bone marrow,
scuba diving (using compressed air or oxygen), or any major medical procedure or surgery.

forgot to bid 01-22-2014 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by fisherpilot (Post 1564108)
Its in a bowl. One way in and one way out, land 15 takeoff 33 due to terrain. The trouble with aspen is that the weather can change pretty quick. We go to Eagle for that reason. Was in EGE that following weekend

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...iKOMSb2uCBCIBg

http://artandflipper.com/blog/wp-con...enP1430557.JPG

There are easier ways to get there amirite? Warmer too if you wait to go.
http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w300/pTm6c...A6scSOtZUZ.jpg

Can a Lear 60 depart 15 Fischer?

Timbo 01-22-2014 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1564172)
Here is the rule.

14 CFR Part 117 requires the company to provide a rest period of 56 hours minimum for flight duty periods or a series of flight duty periods that travel more than 60 degrees longitude and time away from home base is longer than 168 hours. The 56 hour minimum rest period must encompass three physiological nights’ rest based on home base local time.

Thanks SF. I see the word "AND" in there, for the 168hrs. away from base...

168/24 = 7 days.

That cuts it down to about one trip for us Scambo, the 10 day SIN. :rolleyes:


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