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Old 03-02-2015, 11:49 AM
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Out of base GS given out today at 3:09 for the late London. Looks highly irregular and based on the months awards I find it hard to believe no NY 7era had a in base request in. If you did have a GS in and were legal for the trip call Skeds and claim your free 16 hours pay.
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I was describing what a friend of mine had to go through when he saw that he was passed over for a GS. After two days of being put on long holds by scheduling, and being told they'd call him back (they didn't), he finally got an answer that informed him he wasn't getting anything because someone senior to him had a GS in as well. Which seems like an answer they can give to anyone who's outside the top 15 in category.

No, doesn't sound like a job for a ALPA rep....maybe someone on the staff who doesn't fly and has an ALPA retirement, but more likely you just have to live with it.
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You don't have to live with it at all. DALPA has two excellent people on staff who research these issues. They are busy and it can take a few days but they do a outstanding job. The company has granted them the same level of access that a crew scheduler has in the computer system. They can research every step taken and determine if you or another pilot should have been paid and insure that has happened. 1 800 USA ALPA and ask for contract admin.
You originally said call "Skeds." That was the point I was trying to make. Calling "Skeds" is a rabbit hole....and from the stories I've heard/experienced, not worth the trouble.

Your second take on it is a better one, IMHO.
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:02 PM
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That is a pretty pre-vertastic explanation.

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I think that has something to do with the pre-vertness of the Seattle and New York crews versus the pre-verted nature of the operation in LAX. Really Atlanta offers the best pre-vertedness of any base except on the 717.
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:42 PM
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Looking for some guidance. In Europe on a 4 day. The plane inbound cnx due to maintenance. Now my trip is 5 days. I backed up trips and on my day 5 I was suppose to go back to Europe on a 3 day.

Scheduling dropped my 3 day per 23K but now my monthly schedule and time card shows I've lost the pay from the dropped trip. Tried reading the contract but was bogged down with recovery scenarios.

Anyone know if I've lost that pay? Yes, I'll call scheduling when I get back but curious for now.

Thanks...
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:56 PM
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First time through CQ.

Two days of CQ and 5 days of CQ Golden Days in a bid period, no vacation in that month.

1. If I bid and get awarded a line for that period, will PBS build a line (or attempt to) and leave the CQ Golden Days open, or were those days only guaranteed not to have CQ scheduled?

2. Same question if I bid or get awarded reserve in that month. Are they like extra X-days where reserve cannot be assigned?
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:59 PM
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No you are not going to lose the pay. Look on your time card for the date the trip was supposed to start. On that date under "Rot Nbr" it should say 23K and then have the value of the trip under both the "Pay Time" and "Credit" columns. If not, give it a day or two to let them figure it out, then call them.

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Old 03-02-2015, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr View Post
First time through CQ.

Two days of CQ and 5 days of CQ Golden Days in a bid period, no vacation in that month.

1. If I bid and get awarded a line for that period, will PBS build a line (or attempt to) and leave the CQ Golden Days open, or were those days only guaranteed not to have CQ scheduled?

2. Same question if I bid or get awarded reserve in that month. Are they like extra X-days where reserve cannot be assigned?
If you don't bid them off specifically as a line holder or reserve in your monthly bid, you can be awarded/assigned a trip over them. You should not get CQ over them.

You can sit reserve over those days and be assigned a trip, just not CQ. They are NOT extra X days.

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Old 03-02-2015, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
If you don't bid them off specifically as a line holder or reserve in your monthly bid, you can be awarded/assigned a trip over them. You should not get CQ over them.

You can sit reserve over those days and be assigned a trip, just not CQ. They are NOT extra X days.

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Thanks, Denny. That's what I thought but couldn't find it in black and white.
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
No you are not going to lose the pay. Look on your time card for the date the trip was supposed to start. On that date under "Rot Nbr" it should say 23K and then have the value of the trip under both the "Pay Time" and "Credit" columns. If not, give it a day or two to let them figure it out, then call them.

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Thanks Denny! The whole trip disappeared + no 23K notation from my time card and I was a bit surprised from that. Thanks again...
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Old 03-02-2015, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy View Post
You originally said call "Skeds." That was the point I was trying to make. Calling "Skeds" is a rabbit hole....and from the stories I've heard/experienced, not worth the trouble.

Your second take on it is a better one, IMHO.
Your first step is to call Skeds. If they do not explain it to your liking or pay you then you call DALPA.
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