The SSP allows Delta to wind down Pinnacle without wasting hundreds of millions of dollars like they did with Comair. Instead of furloughing pilots at Endeavor, they will be hired at Delta. This prevents Delta from paying for Training displacements and boosts efficiency by not having 9E sit fat on pilots. This savings is not only at Pinnace, but has to matched in the form of rate resets at the other DCI carriers.

All told, this Endeavor deal should save Delta over $1 billion on DCI costs. Lee Moak got played IMHO, unless he came up with the idea for management.

 

That's 81 CRJ-900s that Delta pilots aren't allowed to reclaim in our next contract.

Pinnacle pilots should sign contracts with Pinnacle management.

LOA #9 and LOA #10.

And worst of all - now this Pinnacle deal that is not even part of the "Delta" pilot contact.

 

Delta Air Lines......believe me that it matters.

 

Unlikely unless FTB was in Australia circa 1971 but if I say yes I wonder if FTB will write me a strong letter of recommendation to make up for the the years of neglect of such a close family member?

Is it 68 or 88 Mesaba guys? I read in an earlier post on this thread the Mesaba guys flow at a maximum of 9 per month. Can anybody confirm the Mesaba numbers?

I also read earlier in this thread that it should be 50 a month for the first few months in 2013 and then dropping to 20 per month after that. I'll re-run the spreadsheet with Johny Drama's numbers for Compass, 100 recalls and the 20 per month hiring. The 20 per month will make it look really really bad for street hires until the Compass guys are all used up. Maybe I should have gone to Compass!

Is there any other info that I need to correct or finesse?

Ultimately I'm trying to figure out if I should hang at the regional with a potentially upgrade next year while waiting for a chance to interview at Delta or just jump ship to the first non-regional that will take me, be that Spirit, Frontier, Virgin, Allegiant, US Airways, United or American and then try to get that Delta interview. It seems career decisions at the airlines have so much more impact than a similar decision in my previous industry.

 

The Delta Air Lines pilot gave the company scope relief to increase the number of 76 seat jets, did you really think Delta Air Lines was not going to exercise that option? If PCL didn't get them another carrier would of, and most likely had the same 7 year duration. Delta Air Lines management is smarter than ALPA, get scope relief lock the 76 seaters in long term contracts so it can't be reclaimed. Sorry your MEC didn't see that scenario or decided the benefit the pilots received was worth it.

PCL management=Delta Air Lines management, Delta Air Lines owns Pinnacle. Granted not at the moment the contract was negotiated, all senior management at PCL were fired. Why would Delta Air Lines let the management team that was soon fired negotiate. Give your Air Lines management some credit.

I finally see your point, LOA 9 and 10 had the unions approval, why not this one?

 

Keep in mind if Compass holds back pilots for some reason like MynameisJim mentioned, they still get their seniority numbers for the first class they are held from BUT they will still need to fill the class up so Mesaba and Pinnacle guys will get the call. If that happens it will double the amount of new hires for a specific class thus reaching the 300 alot quicker.

Ex. 20 CP held back, plus 20 Pinnacolaba = 40 pilots with same DOH. Of that 40, maybe 3 people off the street.

20 CP
9 XJ
8-12 9E
0-3 off street.

This is for 20 pilots a month hiring. Don't know how long the 50 could be. Early 2013 could be April or it could be January. Let's hope it's more than 300.

 

Both of which are inherited from Northwest; and both of which have definitive end games. Once the pool of flow rights pilots is exhausted, it's over.

 

Compass is the first 20 per month. I believe Mesaba is 9 per class; but, after the 20 Compass.

 

You're at an Alpa carrier. You should want Alpa pilots to be hired at delta. What is your problem with the pinnacle guys? We already fly delta passengers. I would think that you would want us before off the street guys.

 

It goes like this:
1. Compass has the first 20 in class, up to 25% of the list in 1 year. There are about 400ish that have flow rights there. The rest receive an interview.
2. The next 9 in class are Mesaba flows, there are 69 of them remaining.
3. If there are any remaining slots in class, 1/3 of the remaining slots or 12, whichever is less, goes to Pinnacle SSP pilots.
4. The rest is whomever Delta wants.

Example: Delta has a class of 40 new hires:
20 are from Compass
9 are from Mesaba
4 are from the 9E SSP
7 are off the street