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Old 10-23-2017, 02:40 AM
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All you guys that think this is not a pay cut and that we don’t deserve better is in fantasy land!
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Old 10-23-2017, 03:02 AM
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All you guys that think this is not a pay cut and that we don’t deserve better is in fantasy land!
We don't deserve anything, we are worth what we can negotiate. Our union negotiated this. These negotiations have been going on as long as ive been here and supposedly longer. Union said no until we got this. Don't crap on their work.
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I agree!! You should vote with your feet and move over to that other regional that has better pay and QoL than EDV.

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All you guys that think this is not a pay cut and that we don’t deserve better is in fantasy land!
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
All you guys that think this is not a pay cut and that we don’t deserve better is in fantasy land!
It's a bonus.......

Temporary bonus.........

Does not have to be renewed........

TA increases everyone's pay permanently.......period.

Not sure why this concept is so difficult.
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
Give it a rest!
I’d ask the same of you
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PT6flyer View Post
We don't deserve anything, we are worth what we can negotiate. Our union negotiated this. These negotiations have been going on as long as ive been here and supposedly longer. Union said no until we got this. Don't crap on their work.
That’s the problem, you haven’t been here long enough.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
That’s the problem, you haven’t been here long enough.
How long is long enough?

Lol

What you need to realize that this isn't about contract negotiations where we shoot for the moon, this is about turning a temporary bonus into hourly rates.

That's it.

We got that and more for a 4 year price tag extension.

I have no doubt that other regionals will follow the rates set in this TA and Delta will have to up the ante even more if the economy stays the same.

If the economy doesn't stay healthy we have the new rates.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok View Post
It's a bonus.......

Temporary bonus.........

Does not have to be renewed........

TA increases everyone's pay permanently.......period.

Not sure why this concept is so difficult.
I'm sick of hearing this being thrown around. With that logic, you'd have been fine if they gave us just a $10/ hr raise instead of $23/ hr because it's a raise, it's permanent, we'd be out $23,000 come 2019.

If you think they would let that bonus come to an end you are sorely mistaken. That was a plus to us in negotiations. The closer that date got, the more desperate the company got to recruit FOs. Why do you think they pushed the negotiations through in a week flat? Delta realized they would have to do this quick or end up paying more in the end.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok View Post
How long is long enough?

Lol

What you need to realize that this isn't about contract negotiations where we shoot for the moon, this is about turning a temporary bonus into hourly rates.

That's it.

We got that and more for a 4 year price tag extension.

I have no doubt that other regionals will follow the rates set in this TA and Delta will have to up the ante even more if the economy stays the same.

If the economy doesn't stay healthy we have the new rates.
Why do think Delta mainline is only 2 years. They have 12 caps. We have 15 years. Come on guys. Open your eyes!
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
Why do think Delta mainline is only 2 years. They have 12 caps. We have 15 years. Come on guys. Open your eyes!
We aren't Delta.

And I'd love their rates capped at 12.
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