Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
#7211
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#7212
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I'm curious, with dual qual do we then have just one bid package per base?
#7214
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Theres some sort of us v them on fleet you're on which i agree is embarrassing for all of us. I had a 200 crew tell me they couldnt talk to me because they were on the 200 and i was 900. They laughed it off but they didn't look like they were kidding.
Theres good things about both aircraft but if you're a fo the fms head on your side and a free meal every other day makes first year and second pay easier. Cue the "well it was fine for me when i was a 200 fo for 4 years" God I don't care. Ive worked fo on both for multiple years. They only ones trying to talk up the 200 (advent of the moniker Canadian resetjet) are the ones trying to tamp down the us v them crap. Ill tamp it down for ya. Shutup if youre new here, this is one team, not 200 v 900 shirts v skins.
Middle lineholder for a 900 guy has it better than middle line holder for a 200 guy, just look at the trips, we're simply talking math at this point. If you get offended by that or by me, don't.
The only question that matters is, how long will you be reserve on 900 waiting for the better lines. Idk. But the ssp flow is senior FOs right now from the 900 and a mix of a few captains that were not captains as of 14-04.
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You are correct, the trips on the 900 are more efficient. Never said they weren't. But I know 200 guys who are sitting 9-20 days of reserve as newhire said, and 900 guys who are sitting 6-9 months of reserve. Some like that. I'd rather be flying inefficient trips than sitting on reserve. Maybe after I get tired of the job, sitting in my underwear at home and making guarantee will have a new appeal for me. There are two sides to every story, and we are just throwing them out there for folks to understand so they can make a better decision.
There's a reason there are 20+ year EDV CAs who have only flown the 200, and it's not for lack of opportunities. There is an appeal in the 200 for many, just as the 900 has appeal for others.
There's a reason there are 20+ year EDV CAs who have only flown the 200, and it's not for lack of opportunities. There is an appeal in the 200 for many, just as the 900 has appeal for others.
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#7218
While youll fly more initially on the 200 the trips are a joke. 16hour 5days v 28 or 30 hour 5 days on the 900. Where the breakeven is idk, but 900 fos are upgrading as fast or faster than the 200 fos check 1602 and 03. That may be for a variety of reasons, but someone might get an answer for that before we continue pretending 200 fos fly more.
Theres some sort of us v them on fleet you're on which i agree is embarrassing for all of us. I had a 200 crew tell me they couldnt talk to me because they were on the 200 and i was 900. They laughed it off but they didn't look like they were kidding.
Theres good things about both aircraft but if you're a fo the fms head on your side and a free meal every other day makes first year and second pay easier. Cue the "well it was fine for me when i was a 200 fo for 4 years" God I don't care. Ive worked fo on both for multiple years. They only ones trying to talk up the 200 (advent of the moniker Canadian resetjet) are the ones trying to tamp down the us v them crap. Ill tamp it down for ya. Shutup if youre new here, this is one team, not 200 v 900 shirts v skins.
Middle lineholder for a 900 guy has it better than middle line holder for a 200 guy, just look at the trips, we're simply talking math at this point. If you get offended by that or by me, don't.
The only question that matters is, how long will you be reserve on 900 waiting for the better lines. Idk. But the ssp flow is senior FOs right now from the 900 and a mix of a few captains that were not captains as of 14-04.
Theres some sort of us v them on fleet you're on which i agree is embarrassing for all of us. I had a 200 crew tell me they couldnt talk to me because they were on the 200 and i was 900. They laughed it off but they didn't look like they were kidding.
Theres good things about both aircraft but if you're a fo the fms head on your side and a free meal every other day makes first year and second pay easier. Cue the "well it was fine for me when i was a 200 fo for 4 years" God I don't care. Ive worked fo on both for multiple years. They only ones trying to talk up the 200 (advent of the moniker Canadian resetjet) are the ones trying to tamp down the us v them crap. Ill tamp it down for ya. Shutup if youre new here, this is one team, not 200 v 900 shirts v skins.
Middle lineholder for a 900 guy has it better than middle line holder for a 200 guy, just look at the trips, we're simply talking math at this point. If you get offended by that or by me, don't.
The only question that matters is, how long will you be reserve on 900 waiting for the better lines. Idk. But the ssp flow is senior FOs right now from the 900 and a mix of a few captains that were not captains as of 14-04.
Don't knock a guy by total time or seniority number. The end result is a seniority number to upgrade, and the time to make it legal. Just because someone is "legal" is far from the truth of "able". Every pilot was hired to be a captain, it comes down to ability and prep to reach that end result.
When bidding positions, the difference of the -200/-900 is really negligible. The -900 IS easier from a systems point of view, but it still ends up in overall knowledge, situational awareness (SA), and willingness to learn. The left seat may only be 3 feet left with a pay bump, but it's a very different job when SHTF.
#7219
Maybe if your epaulettes hadn't been on upside down they would have talked to you....
#7220
While youll fly more initially on the 200 the trips are a joke. 16hour 5days v 28 or 30 hour 5 days on the 900. Where the breakeven is idk, but 900 fos are upgrading as fast or faster than the 200 fos check 1602 and 03. That may be for a variety of reasons, but someone might get an answer for that before we continue pretending 200 fos fly more.
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