Thanks for posting this. Many peeps chiming in on here with false facts. Endeavor is a great place...don't get me wrong, but we lack career progression compared to our counterparts. I see stagnation at the top. There is a quick fix, and we all know it.

 

Negative thoughts always seem loud, even if it's a minority.

This is a good time for the carrier and industry, but those here for a decade+ can and will complain, joys of the vocal minority.

 

Negative FACTS always seem inconvenient, more so when they're so abundant.

 

Hello, welcome to the party.

So I've been here 10+ years and have gone from right to left, to left to right, then right to left, left to right, ohh wait.. right to left, you get the picture....With contracts going from stagnant, to better, to failing, to worse, to better, to more worse, and here we are improving, if you want to play facts, try me. No, seriously, if you were at the table when the stuff hit the fan, I'd love a differing opinion.

The past is always a point of fact, what do you offer otherwise? I posted days ago what came out today and sourced yesterday. We can play for the "I told you so" card, but it's easier to tell you to refute actual facts.

Once again, airlines move forward before they walk back. Right now the push is still forward, which will benefit those here today in the retention bonuses moving to pay rates, and those coming here reaping new rewards beyond a bonus taxed at 39+%. The problem with a "bonus" is beyond inconvenience, its that a bonus is not calculated for earnings who want to buy a house or a car, as it's not viewed as "normal" earnings.

If you have greater wisdom, I'd absolutely love to play a sources game. Guess what, if you win, you are a DL executive with too much time on your hands. If you haven't figured it out, you would either be full of BS or a troll. Take a look back and let me know if you want to try to prove what I've said, since about 2006, as "wrong".

 

Point? So because you knew about things that came out today that entitles you to play the "I told you so" card? I don't see how that has any relevance to you calling people out for being negative or the vocal minority when their statements are based upon an accurate fact pattern albeit with a little emotion interjected. Although the historical references make up some of the negative thoughts as you say, the current environment still comes up short.

It's not taxed at that rate it's merely withheld at that rate and will be taxed at your applicable rate. Unless something has changed since I left you shouldn't have a 39% tax withholding rate on your bonus. The supplemental income withholding rate for employees making less than 1 million in supplemental income is 25%, it doesn't goto 39.6% until you make over a million in supplemental income. Even including the supplemental withholding for most states and other associated witholdings doesn't get you up to 39%. I guess the only other way would be the aggregate calculation method but I don't think Endeavor started using it nor do I think it would get most individuals up to 39+%.

Any reputable underwriter with a quality applicant will consider supplemental income for mortgages or other loans. They have to see 2 years of historical payments or a documented employer payment structure going forward. That's standard underwriting on conventional, FHA, VA, or even jumbo loans.

Uh... I don't care what Delta is planning to do or does in the future, it doesn't impact me anymore. I never called into question the accuracy of your reporting, I didn't say inaccurate facts I said negative facts, and it was in reference to you calling out the vocal minority for their negative thoughts. The "vocal minority" used facts to justify their views. Those facts happened to be both abundant and negative which holds far more weight than "negative thoughts" at least to me.

You can say the vocal minority has negative thoughts, but the facts are Endeavor has horrible reserve rules, no real career progression, a growing NYC base with parings that simply aren't commutable, horrible pass benefits compared to other wholly owned carriers, and fails to have a compensation package to makeup for those deficiencies.

 

6 out of 26 SSPers? That's sad. What's that you said Higney about a new career progression plan that will pi55 off failed SSPers?

 

Are you saying the success rate of the program is 23%?

 

That was October's results... And yes that's pathetic

 

First post since "FLG" became "EDV" and I feel like a should change my username... Last time I flew I got every radio call correct until my last transmission with DTW ramp control I said Flagship. I was so close to a perfect "EDV" flight>

What I find amazing is we only had 1 captain in October get the job offer with Delta/SSP. Am I missing something? 90% of the captains I fly with are absolutely great guys. I don't understand why the SSP numbers are so dang low. Congrats to the few guys who got the job!

 

I think its the result of SSP'ers that waited till the last few days to apply
My guess is that Delta doesn't like prospective pilots waiting until the last
day to apply and this is the result. It is way lower than the average. How
many were told to interview again in 6 month's?

The average is around 60% hire rate of SSP pilots that interviewed at Delta.