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04-15-2016 | 06:09 PM
#2391
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You do realize that this paragraph was specifically talking about you, right? Get a life, move on. Stop coming back here hoping to justify your decisions. You made it, move on and don't look back. If you had any confidence in your decision, you wouldn't be here everyday attempting to prove to yourself that you made the right one. You are sad. Not because of the choice you made but because you keep coming back here.
04-15-2016 | 07:46 PM
#2392
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Speaking of upgrades...
How does upgrade pay work? Lets say you are a 5 yr FO. With the 4 yr FO pay cap, when an FO upgrades does he/she receive 4 yr CA pay, 1st yr CA pay or CA pay at whatever year of service they actually upgraded in?
04-15-2016 | 07:52 PM
#2393
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04-15-2016 | 09:35 PM
#2394
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04-16-2016 | 07:06 PM
#2397
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This got my attention recently because I flew with a 5 year FO who was leaving for Spirit.
I asked him why and he named off a litany of things, all negative. Some people will always be negative and I spent some time with him trying to show how much he had to lose over his career by comparing all the benefits he had by staying here.
My point was essentially, you have no more than 2 to 3 years absolute max before flowing and you are throwing an AA career away for Spirit? Spirit's pay is horrible and you would then just be another applicant off the street begging to get hired at any legacy. And what have you accomplished? You are basically at the Mesa of LCCs.
It blows my mind but again, there will always be people like yourself who see nothing but the negative in anything here and refuse to adjust your attitude. If I had to guess, you are probably some old turboprop driver who got hired at Chapparal or something like that and lucked out when Eagle bought your company. You're probably a lifer here because your resume would go directly to the round file if you were actually trying to get hired here today.
I asked him why and he named off a litany of things, all negative. Some people will always be negative and I spent some time with him trying to show how much he had to lose over his career by comparing all the benefits he had by staying here.
My point was essentially, you have no more than 2 to 3 years absolute max before flowing and you are throwing an AA career away for Spirit? Spirit's pay is horrible and you would then just be another applicant off the street begging to get hired at any legacy. And what have you accomplished? You are basically at the Mesa of LCCs.
It blows my mind but again, there will always be people like yourself who see nothing but the negative in anything here and refuse to adjust your attitude. If I had to guess, you are probably some old turboprop driver who got hired at Chapparal or something like that and lucked out when Eagle bought your company. You're probably a lifer here because your resume would go directly to the round file if you were actually trying to get hired here today.
04-17-2016 | 07:03 AM
#2400
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From: Feito no Brasil, CA
This right here ^^^.
It's been said over and over. There are too many holes in the numbers we're fed. Too many points of failure. I still think the flow can work, but the lack of new hires and metering are signs of trouble already. The returning T pilots have given ENY management a reprieve by slowing the departing flows and allowing them to bank more new hires, then the holidays will give them a little more staffing wiggle room as the training center slows down. Unless the new hire issue resolves itself, 2017 is going to be interesting.
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