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01-31-2017, 06:25 AM
#601
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Joined APC: May 2016
Position: E175
Posts: 686
Originally Posted by RyanP
Before your time here.. We shared the AA training center with AA pilots on the south side of the Airport. Half of them wore the same jeans and tennis shoes as our pilots do and you couldn't tell the difference between who was working where without checking an ID badge. Imagine that..
It's hours of classroom time and a dark simulator completely out of site of the public. Nobody here cares if your pants are denim or Khaki. They care if you put forth the effort to succeed or not.
It's hours of classroom time and a dark simulator completely out of site of the public. Nobody here cares if your pants are denim or Khaki. They care if you put forth the effort to succeed or not.
01-31-2017, 06:30 AM
#605
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 439
Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
Yea that's the spirit. Dog the guy on educating us about another company's work rules. I would like to see specific language instead of his impression or understanding of it
AND we all know reserve is a problem here. But come on. You really think that because GoJets has better reserve rules it makes it better than envoy? If so they'd have a mass exodus going there.
Heck, one regional is offering to bypass reserve by showing up for Indoc, then sending you home on unpaid leave. How's that sound?
Last edited by DilsonWic; 01-31-2017 at 06:52 AM.
01-31-2017, 06:34 AM
#607
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Position: E175
Posts: 686
Originally Posted by DilsonWic
Sounds good. Then why are you still here? Any LLC will take a quailified applicant today.
They are nothing more than regionals with better contracts.
01-31-2017, 06:53 AM
#609
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Posts: 854
Originally Posted by cr700
Words of advice. Totally disregard this guy. He was banned under another name and keeps showing up here like a bad cold. All he does is yell from the rooftops about how things are not working at Envoy.
Newsflash. Things are working and working very, very well. Ignore his flow diatribe. The flow is contractual and is absolutely not going to stop.
Newsflash. Things are working and working very, very well. Ignore his flow diatribe. The flow is contractual and is absolutely not going to stop.
The reason the flow will likely continue for a while is because it is a recruiting tool, and it gives management some control over the otherwise unpredictable rate of attrition, allowing them to make more definite staffing models.
01-31-2017, 06:55 AM
#610
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Posts: 439
Originally Posted by ORDinary
I agree with you that at least for quite a while the flow will likely not stop. But the reason isn't because "it's contractual." The contract is only a recommendation to management, a slight hassle that is overlooked when its inconvenience outweighs the minor inconvenience of dealing with a grievance. The source for that claim is the very long list of grievances we continue to file as a pilot group.
The reason the flow will likely continue for a while is because it is a recruiting tool, and it gives management some control over the otherwise unpredictable rate of attrition, allowing them to make more definite staffing models.
The reason the flow will likely continue for a while is because it is a recruiting tool, and it gives management some control over the otherwise unpredictable rate of attrition, allowing them to make more definite staffing models.
And they can't stop the ones leaving for Delta or United.
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