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Old 11-14-2012 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JetBlast77
The above definitely applies to the pipe. Its embarrassing.
Whether you like it or not, the Pipe represents your pilot group. If they are a vocal minority, then it is the job of the majority to police them and take them to task. If you don't, then they speak for you on the Pipe.
Old 11-14-2012 | 11:15 AM
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This is what I heard. Back when ASA wanted to go to pbs, Management would not allow asamec to research and find the best system for them. Management basically shoved this program down thier throats. FFwd to now. ASA management suddenly wants the asa mec to look at different pbs programs and the asa mec is basially telling management that they made their bed and to lay in it. probably a fabrication, but it sounds very plausible.
Old 11-14-2012 | 11:29 AM
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ASAs PBS is kick ass for vacation months, and no doubt works for them. The problem is our flying is much different and from what I have seen, won't be as good for the L-XJT guys as it currently is for the ASA guys. I know the ASA side doesn't trust or like Steve & his committee, but that doesn't mean they would lead our MEC in the wrong direction. Steve, Mike, & Bob are extremely well versed in every aspect of the PBS & scheduling world and have the XJT guys best interest at heart, no doubt about that, as does the ASA scheduling guys

Also ( Joe Merchant & CA Tony can attest to this) MGMT has said over and over and over and over they simply would not say yes to their current PBS system as it stands now. ( Vacation low, which gives ASA guys a TON of days off for vacation) is something the company clearly hates. So, you take the company not liking it as it currently stands and it not working with our flying..........you kind of come to a gridlock...
Old 11-14-2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by supersix-4
This is what I heard. Back when ASA wanted to go to pbs, Management would not allow asamec to research and find the best system for them. Management basically shoved this program down thier throats. FFwd to now. ASA management suddenly wants the asa mec to look at different pbs programs and the asa mec is basially telling management that they made their bed and to lay in it. probably a fabrication, but it sounds very plausible.
Boy is someone feeding you some BS....
Old 11-14-2012 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs

Also ( Joe Merchant & CA Tony can attest to this) MGMT has said over and over and over and over they simply would not say yes to their current PBS system as it stands now. ( Vacation low, which gives ASA guys a TON of days off for vacation) is something the company clearly hates. So, you take the company not liking it as it currently stands and it not working with our flying..........you kind of come to a gridlock...
We're good with gridlock because you're right. Vacation low is going to change. I think the best compromise is to keep it, but with a reduction in guarantee. It won't be used as much, and it won't be as costly, but it is still available if you want it. That is compromise.
Old 11-14-2012 | 12:00 PM
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Old 11-14-2012 | 12:42 PM
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I'm just looking forward to getting furloughed so I can have a QOL increase and pay raise...

2 years and still no contract...I have no faith in either MEC...

Time to merge Inc. into one big unhappy family, get rid of ALPA and start an in-house union.
Old 11-14-2012 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
I'm just looking forward to getting furloughed so I can have a QOL increase and pay raise...

2 years and still no contract...I have no faith in either MEC...

Time to merge Inc. into one big unhappy family, get rid of ALPA and start an in-house union.
Stop complaining and get involved then.......If you are unhappy then lead the decertification process, or start recalling. It amazes me how many people complain yet don't do anything........ It's pathetic. I would welcome a recall because at least then I know people care enough to actually do something
Old 11-14-2012 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Stop complaining and get involved then.......If you are unhappy then lead the decertification process, or start recalling. It amazes me how many people complain yet don't do anything........ It's pathetic. I would welcome a recall because at least then I know people care enough to actually do something
There you go AGAIN attacking the very people you work for...

Seriously though, I hope they don't recall you....I like having you as a mouthpiece for the XJT MEC.

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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
There you go AGAIN attacking the very people you work for...

Seriously though, I hope they don't recall you....I like having you as a mouthpiece for the XJT MEC.

, It annoys me that other guys on our MEC never post anything.

I'm not attacking per say, I'm just trying to ensure people exercise their rights as ALPA members. If I truly am doing a bad job, I probably won't notice, so I would hope those that do think I suck, hold me accountable and get rid of me if they think its best
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