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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE
I still have about 400 hours to go before I hit 1500. Was excited about joining PSA with all the positive movements. Since PSA is hiring like crazy, the upgrade time isn't 8-10 months anymore and more like 2 years. Has the PSA ship sailed? Does anyone know?

If you are joking please disregard he following rant.

Are you kidding me?!? It's peole like you that make me never put a loved one on an RJ. WAAA-Flippin'-WAAAA!! You have 1100tt and are are upset at the idea of having to spend another 12-14 months in the right seat before being entrusted with the lives of the people crammed into a -900?!?? When will this entitlement BS END?!?!

Savor that time in the right seat. Learn from your captains (both what to do and what NOT to do). Never quit learning. Regardless of whatever aeronautical deity you see yourself as, remember these two points:
1) You're not one.
2) Gravity always wins.

Use the time to learn how to manage #2. Don't get in too much of a hurry.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE
I still have about 400 hours to go before I hit 1500. Was excited about joining PSA with all the positive movements. Since PSA is hiring like crazy, the upgrade time isn't 8-10 months anymore and more like 2 years. Has the PSA ship sailed? Does anyone know?
You would not see the upgrade that quick anyway since you would not have 1000 hours of 121 time by then. It's going to take you nearly 2 years to build the 1000 hours at any airline anyway so you would be eligible for the upgrade as soon as you get the time at PSA. Not only that, you would be a more senior Captain than all the guys junior to you who upgraded before you because they had the time. So really its going to be a win-win, you are going to be a senior FO very quickly, then when you are eligible to upgrade you will have some seniority as a Captain as well.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:19 AM
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I was just weighing my options to choose what would be best for me given the trend. If it's 2 yrs so be it. If I go to ex) Skywest and its 10 years so be it.

Why does it always have to be *****ing and whinnying with you people. I was merely just wanting to confirm the rumor to have current info.
Geez take a chill pill
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE
I still have about 400 hours to go before I hit 1500. Was excited about joining PSA with all the positive movements. Since PSA is hiring like crazy, the upgrade time isn't 8-10 months anymore and more like 2 years. Has the PSA ship sailed? Does anyone know?
Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE
I was just weighing my options to choose what would be best for me given the trend. If it's 2 yrs so be it. If I go to ex) Skywest and its 10 years so be it.

Why does it always have to be *****ing and whinnying with you people. I was merely just wanting to confirm the rumor to have current info.
Geez take a chill pill

Your post indicated you felt PSA's "ship has sailed" because upgrade had gone from less than a year to two. At 1100 hrs that's the wrong way to look at things. If you had 3000 hrs 121 SIC, that's totally different.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:36 AM
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in terms of taking advantage of the current trend for upgrades. Not the company as a whole. My bad for not specifying
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE
I was just weighing my options to choose what would be best for me given the trend. If it's 2 yrs so be it. If I go to ex) Skywest and its 10 years so be it.

Why does it always have to be *****ing and whinnying with you people. I was merely just wanting to confirm the rumor to have current info.
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I think because your post seemed a little silly and wasnt well thought out... Upgrades have always been AT LEAST 18 to 24 months for those hired without the required time to upgrade. That has not changed. Upgrade times will probably drop or remain constant in the near future for those with the required minimums to upgrade. 2 years to upgrade to CA at ANY regional is phenomenal. You could always go to some of the other places with a 5+ or 7+ year upgrade...
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:56 AM
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You are right. I should've been more sensitive. But don't take everything so personally. I am just starting to learn about this industry. Realized it's not 'go get 1500' and then boom ur flying for airlines!
I am researching and heard hey check out PSA. It's a good company and just gotten better. It's THE company to join. Then now I heard the upgrade isn't that fast anymore. Now I never experienced how things are with upgrade anod reserve and all the other BS you guys experienced. This one is a newbie and was asking a simply factual question for his spreadsheet for comparison.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE
You are right. I should've been more sensitive. But don't take everything so personally. I am just starting to learn about this industry. Realized it's not 'go get 1500' and then boom ur flying for airlines!
I am researching and heard hey check out PSA. It's a good company and just gotten better. It's THE company to join. Then now I heard the upgrade isn't that fast anymore. Now I never experienced how things are with upgrade anod reserve and all the other BS you guys experienced. This one is a newbie and was asking a simply factual question for his spreadsheet for comparison.
Either way PSA is looking for good people to work for them so hopefully that will be you in the near future. Setting the quick upgrade aside for the moment there is a lot to offer here.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 07:25 AM
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People (including myself) get worked up about this because we've BTDT. This upgrade surge is nothing new, like in 2000 and 2007. Some low-timer always jumps in wanting/expecting to move into the left seat ASAP and not knowing what they don't know. Funny story from the Way-back Machine, I recall meeting an FO (not a low-timer) in 2000 who couldn't upgrade because he couldn't meet all the ATP requirements. He was 22.

If comes in 2 years, super, but be ready for 5 years or even a furlough. Just get hired and as many people behind you on the seniority list ASAP.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE
I was just weighing my options to choose what would be best for me given the trend. If it's 2 yrs so be it. If I go to ex) Skywest and its 10 years so be it.

Why does it always have to be *****ing and whinnying with you people. I was merely just wanting to confirm the rumor to have current info.
Geez take a chill pill
LOL welcome to APC. Don't take it personal, just imagine where some of these guys are. They are stuck in a hotel at some boaring overnight, or they are sitting at the gate waiting for a delayed dead head home. They are killing time reading APC, and they see your post. They say to themselves Fresh meat! Let's take out some pent up aggression on this newbie. Don't worry most of them are really nice in person. This is my second regional airline, and so for its going pretty good. You just have to accept that PSA is a regional airline and that its not the promise land. I wish you the best!
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