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Old 04-27-2016 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Learjet84
I had some questions...
What is the difference in flow between PSA, Piedmont, and Envoy
That's not an easy question to answer. The flow numbers are moving targets. Envoy currently has the highest number of flows, but that number is set to diminish over time. PSA's is supposed to increase over time based on the number of active Captains but PSA's not upgrading anyone right now and they recently announced that they would be reducing the flow for at least the next couple of months, due to staffing levels.

Originally Posted by Learjet84
Piedmont says they have the quickest flow and Envoy says they have the most people flowing. Piedmont breaks out a calculator and math's it out for you. PSA assured it wouldnt take that long to get to American.
The latest flows from Envoy are 2003 hires, (13 years). The most recent PSA flows were 2005 hires, (11 years). I don't know what the Piedmont flows longevity looks like.

Originally Posted by Learjet84
How likely is it for someone to get based in CLT?
The latest F/O bid came out this week. The most junior CLT pilot has a Dec 2015 hire date but the bid is not effective until July 1st. So it currently takes 7 months for a f/o to hold CLT,...... on reserve,....... sitting endless hot reserve,....... for months, if not years.
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Old 04-28-2016 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
You again? Please show me where I ever said I applied for chief pilot. Chief pilots here have nothing to do with management other than being their muscle. I have only ever talked about Union committees but with your reading comprehension, I'm not surprised you were confused. I'm 40 years old and my life experience far exceeds anything your mom and dad let you do in their basement. Consider this our last interaction troll. Run along and be happy you have the Internet to be tough. We both know you'd wet yourself in real life.
You ask me to show you, so I did and you attack me. Yes, I called you out. Yes you lied. I called you out again. I suggest you be a man, stand behind what you say and be honest. I don't think it's in you though.

Can't hide the truth. You are wonderful at whining, *****ing and moaning. Great at calling names and telling lies..................
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Old 04-28-2016 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 272922
Which is why I did not say that the forum is secure. But since every thread here rapidly devolves into a regional poo flinging contest I don't think that this is the best place.
Agreed, but there is no safe place on the Internet since we lack the ability to sign every pilot to a Non-Disclosure Agreement and ensure their log-on password isn't accessed by unauthorized people.
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Old 04-28-2016 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptLucky
You ask me to show you, so I did and you attack me. Yes, I called you out. Yes you lied. I called you out again. I suggest you be a man, stand behind what you say and be honest. I don't think it's in you though.

Can't hide the truth. You are wonderful at whining, *****ing and moaning. Great at calling names and telling lies..................
OR you can't read. I clearly stated I offered to VOLUNTEER, something that you don't do for the CP position as it's a PAID position. I asked you to show me where I ever said I APPLIED for the CP position. Words have meanings. I was addressing two of your "call outs" toughy because your incessant routine is annoying. If you review our entire conversation and the context you'll realize you're an idiot. Or cherry pick what you want. I'll absolutely stand behind everything I've said on here. I said the same things about management on the ALPA forum. You're lack of understanding of the English language is not my problem. We also know your spine only exists in an anonymous Internet forum. You calling me not a man is kind of funny as I'm sure you have no idea what a man is stuck in your safe space with all your trigger warnings.

I and many others on here will continue to "whine" about this amateur management and you stay on your knees under DFs desk. I'm sure you'll do whatever it takes to whoever you can to get to your flow spot a little faster because based on your inferred mental skills and ability on here, you're gonna need it.

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Old 04-28-2016 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
Consider this our last interaction troll.
1stCiv, you said this 5 pages back. Let it go with CaptLucky. Both of you need to take a deep breath and put down the iPhone for a day or two.
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Old 04-28-2016 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Binksy
1stCiv, you said this 5 pages back. Let it go with CaptLucky. Both of you need to take a deep breath and put down the iPhone for a day or two.
It's some evil Jedi mind trick. And I'm probably letting some 12 year old draw me back in. That's what long boring overnights will do.
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Old 04-28-2016 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
It's some evil Jedi mind trick. And I'm probably letting some 12 year old draw me back in. That's what long boring overnights will do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU
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Old 04-28-2016 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
It's some evil Jedi mind trick. And I'm probably letting some 12 year old draw me back in. That's what long boring overnights will do.


What 30 hour dsm overnights aren't fun?
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Old 04-28-2016 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
... PSA's is supposed to increase over time based on the number of active Captains but PSA's not upgrading anyone right now and they recently announced that they would be reducing the flow for at least the next couple of months, due to staffing levels.
Also the union and management are scheduled to meet in June to discuss changes to the flow. If the original growth plan to become a 150 airplane airline is still in place I doubt we will see any increase to PSA's flow/year. However, management has said that when the growth was over the flow would be increased to continue attracting newhires.

AAG is disappointed with Q1 PRASM and will cut capacity. So if the new 900s and 700 transfers start replacing 200s instead of adding to the fleet I would expect the flows/year to increase.

The slow down for the next few months is due to increased summer flying and can be expected to happen every year. What matters is how many flow per year.
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Old 04-28-2016 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Learjet84
PSA guys at OBAP and FAPA came ready to go.

Literally the only carrier with a tv and a cool little video about PSA. Flashy and fun. Out of all the airlines there, they LITERALLY had the best booth. Someone planned that well!

I had some questions...
What is the difference in flow between PSA, Piedmont, and Envoy.
Piedmont says they have the quickest flow and Envoy says they have the most people flowing. Piedmont breaks out a calculator and math's it out for you. PSA assured it wouldnt take that long to get to American.

How likely is it for someone to get based in CLT?

What does health insurance cost... like yearly premium?

Thanks for they help! I should have asked while I was at OBAP but had to leave too early.
The answers are.
Come to endeavor.
Less than 2 year upgrade.
Make 60k your first year.
Delta interview
Enough said
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