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Old 11-25-2008 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
How many bars must you own before you can fly a Comair airplane?






Eight


four in the left seat, and four in the right seat
I like this one!! hahahahahahahaha!!!
God this place sucks big time!
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Old 11-25-2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy143
Ugh. I just want to know what's going on.
Heres what going on......RR on Xmas eve...?? cough cough yea right! Stay tuned!
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Old 11-25-2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyStormer6
Anyone talk to the new prez yet? (via email or otherwise) I'm sure he's busy settling in, but I heard from the compass guys he is pretty good about answering emails and being straight with people. Make him earn his paycheck and get some answers from him.
I emailed him about the downgrade CA's getting the Thanksgiving & Short Call shaft...got a "I'll look into it" message back. Nothing more so far. Oh, and Planning is once again violating the contract assigning LC windows out of seniority because of the rest issue after a SC window that's currently being grieved.
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Old 11-25-2008 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by p1ayn
Heres what going on......RR on Xmas eve...?? cough cough yea right! Stay tuned!
Man... you sound sick... I think you're coming down with somethin.

I have a fever... and the only cure is more cowbell.
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Old 11-25-2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by p1ayn
Heres what going on......RR on Xmas eve...?? cough cough yea right! Stay tuned!
I told you the other day that flu has been going around. I think I might be getting it too.
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Old 11-25-2008 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
Man... you sound sick... I think you're coming down with somethin.

I have a fever... and the only cure is more cowbell.
Just saw Blue Oyster Cult recently. Ton of cowbell t-shirts. Love that skit, definately top 5 of all time on SNL....
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Old 11-26-2008 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
Man... you sound sick... I think you're coming down with somethin.

I have a fever... and the only cure is more cowbell.
I'll keep that in mind as I sit there Christmas Eve, recrewing that ready ten times over... sounds like its gonna be a fun night.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Montu
I'll keep that in mind as I sit there Christmas Eve, recrewing that ready ten times over... sounds like its gonna be a fun night.
" Starting to sound alot like Christmas..."
Just another Comedy Air Christmas Holiday....loyalty went out ohhh...bout 3 years ago.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by p1ayn
" Starting to sound alot like Christmas..."
Just another Comedy Air Christmas Holiday....loyalty went out ohhh...bout 3 years ago.
If anyone can get their hands on the April 2004 issue of Airways magazine, I suggest doing so. The 4 or 5 page article on Comair is interesting... seems like your right there P1ayn, it's been set up for years. Just some quotes:

"(In 2001) The company that was once renowned for cordial employee relations..."


In reference to the higher labor costs and reduced flying immediately following 9-11:


"Comair is attempting to do this (compensate) by increasing the average aircraft utilization, by holding off on non-essential purchases, and renegotiating the prices it pays for practically everything."
(Guess that idea went out the window....)

"Pilots and flight attendant unions have been asked to re-negotiate their contracts to include pay cuts and other concessions."
(Remember, this is 2004, Pilots contract was not up until 2006, FA's until 2007)

"Delta has made it clear that cost cuts will be rewarded with growth."
"Based on its existing (higher) overhead, Comair has tendered a propsal to Delta under a competitive bidding system-open to both Connection carriers and outsiders-to operate new services with as many as 80 more RJs."
(I believe this is where Mesa steps in so Delta could use the "industry average" argument...)

A lot more stuff in the article, but certainly foreshadowing of bad times ahead.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TristarJS30
If anyone can get their hands on the April 2004 issue of Airways magazine, I suggest doing so. The 4 or 5 page article on Comair is interesting... seems like your right there P1ayn, it's been set up for years. Just some quotes:

"(In 2001) The company that was once renowned for cordial employee relations..."


In reference to the higher labor costs and reduced flying immediately following 9-11:

"Comair is attempting to do this (compensate) by increasing the average aircraft utilization, by holding off on non-essential purchases, and renegotiating the prices it pays for practically everything."
(Guess that idea went out the window....)

"Pilots and flight attendant unions have been asked to re-negotiate their contracts to include pay cuts and other concessions."
(Remember, this is 2004, Pilots contract was not up until 2006, FA's until 2007)

"Delta has made it clear that cost cuts will be rewarded with growth."
"Based on its existing (higher) overhead, Comair has tendered a propsal to Delta under a competitive bidding system-open to both Connection carriers and outsiders-to operate new services with as many as 80 more RJs."
(I believe this is where Mesa steps in so Delta could use the "industry average" argument...)

A lot more stuff in the article, but certainly foreshadowing of bad times ahead.
Interesting and frustrating stuff isn't it? Unfortunately, Delta has been layng the ground work for quite some time on the future of comair, allowing for economic fluctuations. The primary concern is Delta and it's operation for profitablity. Comair's existance and history means nothing to them, and frankly if I was DL CEO, it wouldn't concern me as well. What does concern is the bottom line and operationally there are alot of players on the DCI team. None to date that have taken the abuse and reductions at the levels Comair has taken. So I do hope I am wrong and somehow we are spared, I just don't see it happening, based on historical patterns and what is happening with the new DCI members. Meanwhile, I go to work with a bad taste in my mouth. It is upsetting to have this bad taste and ill feelings toward the company because as many that have flown with me, I tend to have a good time with my crews and get the job done. However we are all human and one can only stand the management or lack thereof for a given time. Our new guy has some work and regardless if Comair goes down, all I ask is for straight open honest commuication as opposed to the illerate comments we have been receiving the last few years. Im done... need to pack and head up north!!
BTW, Happy Turkey day to all. In worst of times as these, appreciate those who are closest to you. (CRJ step away from the hotties!) LOL!
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