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Old 10-27-2014 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
He's the guy that started the domino effect on pilot pensions. Hell of a union buster.
Totally different environment now.
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Old 10-27-2014 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Totally different environment now.
While I don't disagree, after being lectured for an hour today by my captain apparently it's a huge slap to the face.
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Old 10-27-2014 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
While I don't disagree, after being lectured for an hour today by my captain apparently it's a huge slap to the face.
Maybe it's time to slap back. The company needs to decide if they want labor harmony.
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Old 10-27-2014 | 07:32 PM
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Anyone know how fast the company moved with the F/As? They seemed to really move along on their negotiations. I wonder why they are dragging their feet on our side. Hell they added another $13 mil to their contract just for asking nicely.

Also when do the 3 different contracts go away and into one operating system? I thought that was what the MOU provided for but maybe I am misunderstanding the process here.
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Old 10-28-2014 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
The company needs to decide if they want labor harmony.
The company has already decided on that. They are indicating their decision as transparently as they can.
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Old 11-09-2014 | 08:22 AM
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Flight attendants reject new American Airlines contract by 16 votes | Dallas Morning News

Looks like the APFA membership rejected their contract TA, by a very slim margin.

Any bets on whether the company will make a third attempt to swing that slim margin, or just push it to arbitration? Either way, the next couple weeks will prove to be very interesting around here.
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Old 11-09-2014 | 08:28 AM
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Only 16,000 of 24,000 voted....pretty weak. And I wonder what this means for us....?
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Old 11-09-2014 | 08:31 AM
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We can hope that maybe the company will be realistic with us and present a contract we'd find acceptable to avoid both labor groups being upset and in arbitration.

But the realistic outcome is management will shrug and be perfectly fine with saving a few $$ with cost-neutral arbitration (the FA's arbitration isn't cost-neutral I don't believe, but I don't think they'll gain anything either) at the expense of some irritated employees.
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Old 11-09-2014 | 09:35 AM
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What was their reasoning? The arbitrated one will have less value. The value of that contract was more than DAL and UAL, what more do they want? Unbelievable.

I can't imagine the company would sweeten the pot any more, they already went above and beyond.

Companies can be vindictive when their perceived charity is rejected. Look at what SWA did to the AirTran folks. AAG is crucifying Eagle for their rejection of pay caps. I'm just mystified is all...
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Old 11-09-2014 | 10:24 AM
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What was their reasoning? The arbitrated one will have less value. The value of that contract was more than DAL and UAL, what more do they want? Unbelievable.

I can't imagine the company would sweeten the pot any more, they already went above and beyond.

Companies can be vindictive when their perceived charity is rejected. Look at what SWA did to the AirTran folks. AAG is crucifying Eagle for their rejection of pay caps. I'm just mystified is all...
What more do they want? Would you honestly vote yes on that TA they had? I wouldn't - especially if I was US. Why should the AA side get more 401k contribution? One contract, 2 different benefits? Screw that.
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