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12-12-2024 | 07:57 AM

#2681

80knotsV1rotate

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Originally Posted by 170Till5

that’s pretty much my reserve strategy too. Would rather be home. Some people do whacky things in my eyes, but again, each their own. More power to them but if something has the ability to go out as a GS, you hate to see someone WS or YS it but yeah there are reasons for it, sure.. fly least amount possible and wait for premium to call is IMO the best way to value your time 90% of the time

That's what I'm saying. I truly don't understand some of the WS and YS out there. I am even seeing junior guys YS'ing decent trips <18 hours to report on their friggin X days!

My guess is you only make that mistake once...

Or maybe the strategy is to get reserve full??? Which defeats the entire purpose of bidding reserve...

12-12-2024 | 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

There are a few occasions where it makes sense. Maybe they are trying to fill up; perhaps they are trying to create a 30/168 conflict to have a day off they need. I could think of a few other scenarios, but getting upset with someone's strategy is silly.

12-12-2024 | 08:02 AM

#2683

80knotsV1rotate

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Originally Posted by ShegotheD

I think you may be misconstruing my normal tone with being upset. Other peoples' slip strategies do not affect my blood pressure.

12-12-2024 | 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

For anyone new or uninitiated, this cannot be overemphasized. GS are always a proffer, so you can have 1 slip in for the whole month that will catch every opportunity in the net. But for a WS to remain a proffer (can turn it down), you have to have a separate slip in for a 1-day, than a 2-day, than a 3-day, then a... And you have to change your slips every day (to roll to the next day) if you want to be open to the proffer trips via ARCOS. If you are new and don't understand any of that, ask someone to help explain it. Otherwise, if you put in just a blanket WS covering the whole month, you are going to get slammed with at least one, if not several trips you don't want, and can't turn down. Don't learn that lesson the hard way...

Couldn't you still just have one white slip - which you would still roll every day - but that had trip parameters that covered MIN 01 MAX 05 day trips? Wouldn't that accomplish the same thing?

12-12-2024 | 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

I think you may be misconstruing my normal tone with being upset. Other peoples' slip strategies do not affect my blood pressure.

I wasn't referring to you but to the guys who get upset about not getting a Hypothetical GS when a reserve picks up something as a YS. Those are the same guys who get upset about not getting released for OE and have to go fly the trip they bid for.

12-12-2024 | 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

That's the only one I can think of...so for a guy who can't hold a line who got unstacked on Xmas...yeah, this would be the month I would predict seeing that happen. I doubt you would see reserves YS'ing trips < 18 hrs outside of December.

12-12-2024 | 08:07 AM

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There are a few occasions where it makes sense. Maybe they are trying to fill up; perhaps they are trying to create a 30/168 conflict to have a day off they need. I could think of a few other scenarios, but getting upset with someone's strategy is silly.

Does this work? I know you can't move an X-day to cause a 30/168. Didn't know it worked for trips?

12-12-2024 | 08:27 AM

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There appears to have been a recent change in regards to FRMS and short call. Could any widebody types care to comment on what happend?

12-12-2024 | 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

I didn’t say it was me, but I don’t understand the hate. Per your example, YS a Europe <18 hours. But what was in the pot for the next day? 4 day domestics? Uncommutable trips? Or maybe they just like going to Europe for 24 hours? To each their own, just because they don’t do what you would does not mean they are wrong.

This. ^^^^

Absolutely do what is in your best interest however you judge that to be. Your seniority is your currency to do whatever you want. The PWA defines the rules for assigning and awarding trips. Everyone knows the rules or has access to them. This goes for the OOBWS et. all. If you want the rules changed your opportunity is upcoming. The rule book for the foreseeable future is written, learn how the game is played and play hard.

12-12-2024 | 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gspeed

There appears to have been a recent change in regards to FRMS and short call. Could any widebody types care to comment on what happend?

More FRMS SC periods. Some days they have enough to cover 100% sick calls.

CS is assigning FRMS trips that report 30' after SC starts. This is a setup for the SC pilot to show up at push and catch up airborne. This is the primary reason WB categories are exercising the Non Contact provision.

Can you imagine if the ATL A350 taxi incident involved a SC pilot in the above scenario. "Mishap relief pilot reported 5 minutes before pushback and was heads down reviewing M+"

I'm sure others will chime in with more detail.