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Old 02-05-2025 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Now I'm thoroughly confused. Do we, or do we not have PBS reserve SC bidding for MAR?
We do not. We have Brown Slips. Which is my very clever name for Yellow slips that have nothing to do with Yellow slips but are being used instead of PBS reserve SC bidding for MAR.
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Old 02-05-2025 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Now I'm thoroughly confused. Do we or do we not have PBS reserve SC bidding for MAR?

Welcome to the club. It sounds like you bid your reserve schedule in PBS, but you can put your SC bid request for the following month in iCrew starting on the 4th. ...well, unless you're a line holder, then you probably have to wait until your next months schedule is posted before you'll have access...I think. Clear as mud?


I would have been nice if they hadn't deleted my SC bid for next day BEFORE they awarded SCs...
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Old 02-05-2025 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Welcome to the club. It sounds like you bid your reserve schedule in PBS, but you can put your SC bid request for the following month in iCrew starting on the 4th. ...well, unless you're a line holder, then you probably have to wait until your next months schedule is posted before you'll have access...I think. Clear as mud?
Is there DALPA or DAL written guidance anywhere I can look up?
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Old 02-05-2025 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Is there DALPA or DAL written guidance anywhere I can look up?
No, there is not (that I am aware of.) Thus far, the March bid package and the PWA (23. D. 2. g.) are the only guidance.

I cry foul already, and more foul if no additional guidance happens before monthly bidding closes.
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Old 02-05-2025 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Verdell
No, there is not (that I am aware of.) Thus far, the March bid package and the PWA (23. D. 2. g.) are the only guidance.

I cry foul already, and more foul if no additional guidance happens before monthly bidding closes.
I don’t know what days I will be on reserve given coverage awards and multiple ESN bids to optimize the contingencies. How can I bid SC if my days aren’t known? Implementation is hard when you have 2 years apparently.
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Old 02-05-2025 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Is there DALPA or DAL written guidance anywhere I can look up?

Someone reached out to the union to figure out why everyones SC YS prefs were deleted and not used yesterday and sts directed him to a weekly flt ops email from the company lol.
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Old 02-05-2025 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I don’t know what days I will be on reserve given coverage awards and multiple ESN bids to optimize the contingencies. How can I bid SC if my days aren’t known? Implementation is hard when you have 2 years apparently.
Very good question! Added to my list.

Monthly bids end at 1800 on 2/11. According to the bid package, SC Yellow Slip bidding (Brown slips?) ends at 1800 on 2/19. PBS Awards published no later than 1800 on 2/17?

So you might have a couple days to submit your Yellow (Brown?) slips for SC after you know your RSV schedule for MAR. And we have no idea how those SC are actually handled during trip coverage (can a trip be assigned over the awarded SC?)

In case none of this is clear (it's not clear), none of this was handled within PBS as outlined in the PWA.
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Old 02-05-2025 | 02:17 PM
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I don't really even understand why we asked for PBS SC bidding in the first place. I never once heard any pilot talking about that during the negotiation process or survey discussions. I guess in theory you'd know far in advance what you're doing, but in reality if you get a rotation on your very first SC that would remove most/all of the SC you had bid for in that LC block. Then you're right back to bidding daily SC since you're still going to be given your max anyways.
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Old 02-05-2025 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
I don't really even understand why we asked for PBS SC bidding in the first place. I never once heard any pilot talking about that during the negotiation process or survey discussions. I guess in theory you'd know far in advance what you're doing, but in reality if you get a rotation on your very first SC that would remove most/all of the SC you had bid for in that LC block. Then you're right back to bidding daily SC since you're still going to be given your max anyways.
As I sit here right now, given the recent grievence settlements, I see it as an opportunity to expose/improve/extract from the lack of IT compentence at Delta.

Cue a grievance settlement email in 3-6 months.

Forward thinking by ALPA, I say.
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Old 02-05-2025 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Verdell
As I sit here right now, given the recent grievence settlements, I see it as an opportunity to expose/improve/extract from the lack of IT compentence at Delta.

Cue a grievance settlement email in 3-6 months.

Forward thinking by ALPA, I say.
Yep, just what I was thinking!
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