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10-21-2016, 05:30 AM
#1501
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: FO
Posts: 302
This is the way I see it, we are NOT voting on PS on this LOA. Period. That decision was made by the company regardless of this vote. We are voting on a few extra premium days and a raise. I have faith in our NC. I believe they will present us with a fair CBA to vote on when the time comes. We can have an entire new thread to talk about it! This 8% will be a thing of the past. I'd say lets take the money and keep negotiating. My YES vote is in.
10-21-2016, 06:50 AM
#1502
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
There is nothing stopping anybody from voting Yes on this LOA and then voting No a hundred times over on a ****ty CBA until we get a good one. That's my plan anyway. I know this sounds like a scam to me, but who cares? If we're going to be robbed blind, might as well recover some of the loss by picking up the loose change the robber dropped on the floor. I hope everybody feels the same and are ready to shoot down any subpar TA we get thrown at us.
10-21-2016, 10:16 AM
#1503
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Posts: 1,602
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
We currently have 'personal employment agreements' which state the PS can be changed at any time for any reason. This is just the latest takeaway in a long list of items. Our specific scheduling rules aren't included within the PEAs so those are currently being gutted as well.
10-21-2016, 10:29 AM
#1504
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Posts: 1,602
Originally Posted by txbusdriver
Those with solid backgrounds are leaving.
Next month will be two years here. If I were to leave I'd be running to something not running from something. Cash? Pehaps I guess if that's your God. This is not an endorsement of our current rates. Personally I'm wait and see. And as a former INDY air guy I abhor United. Wouldn't go there for $500K a year. AA? Commute on them. Enough said. SWA? The canned water freaks me out. Obviously I'm being facetious but not everyone that's employable elsewhere is leaving.
10-21-2016, 11:06 AM
#1505
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
To piggy back on the above.
It might be harder right now to get a call from JB than other places. We hire what 200-300 a year, others are 500-800. I personally have 5-8 friends that have retired from the military in the past year. They applied everywhere. They all got multiple interviews and offers, no call from JB.
This could be because other companies are calling everyone due to high numbers and JB with much lower numbers is harder to get a call.
Or, and I hope this is not the case, they didn't get called because the company is worried they will leave for someone else.
Or maybe they didn't get called because they know me.
It might be harder right now to get a call from JB than other places. We hire what 200-300 a year, others are 500-800. I personally have 5-8 friends that have retired from the military in the past year. They applied everywhere. They all got multiple interviews and offers, no call from JB.
This could be because other companies are calling everyone due to high numbers and JB with much lower numbers is harder to get a call.
Or, and I hope this is not the case, they didn't get called because the company is worried they will leave for someone else.
Or maybe they didn't get called because they know me.
10-21-2016, 11:23 AM
#1506
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Posts: 1,602
I predict a furlough in the next 5 yrs with the massive hiring. Maybe I'm paranoid. Fuel can't stay cheap forever. The economy will swing eventually. I'd rather not be pilot number 14,000 when that happens.
10-21-2016, 11:27 AM
#1507
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: forward facing stick actuator
Posts: 288
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
I predict a furlough in the next 5 yrs with the massive hiring. Maybe I'm paranoid. Fuel can't stay cheap forever. The economy will swing eventually. I'd rather not be pilot number 14,000 when that happens.
My thoughts exactly. It will also be interesting what will happen to this industry if the government allows NAI in.
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10-21-2016, 12:04 PM
#1508
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 777
Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Not everyone. Age 46, flying 28 years, 91, 91K, 135, 121, turbine PIC, 10K TT, zero failures/enforcement actions/violations, no DUI/criminal record, published safety author, requested and paid speaker at business aviation events, former FlightSafety instructor/evaluator, etc. I don't look good in double-breasted suits and hate wearing hats. Next month will be two years here. If I were to leave I'd be running to something not running from something. Cash? Pehaps I guess if that's your God. This is not an endorsement of our current rates. Personally I'm wait and see. And as a former INDY air guy I abhor United. Wouldn't go there for $500K a year. AA? Commute on them. Enough said. SWA? The canned water freaks me out. Obviously I'm being facetious but not everyone that's employable elsewhere is leaving.
Next month will be two years here. If I were to leave I'd be running to something not running from something. Cash? Pehaps I guess if that's your God. This is not an endorsement of our current rates. Personally I'm wait and see. And as a former INDY air guy I abhor United. Wouldn't go there for $500K a year. AA? Commute on them. Enough said. SWA? The canned water freaks me out. Obviously I'm being facetious but not everyone that's employable elsewhere is leaving.I'll second this, I just prefer not to commute again. 35 years left, clean record, no failures, master's degree, 91/135/121. Although, I will be looking closely at our first contract. If it comes up sub par, I will begin to update the apps.
10-21-2016, 12:05 PM
#1509
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: forward facing stick actuator
Posts: 288
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
I'll second this, I just prefer not to commute again. 35 years left, clean record, no failures, master's degree, 91/135/121. Although, I will be looking closely at our first contract. If it comes up sub par, I will begin to update the apps.
I think a lot of pilots will be doing that if the contract is subpar.
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