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Old 11-29-2012, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 View Post
How does Jetblue view single engine turbine time i.e. PC-12? More importantly the TPIC in the PC-12 operating under 135 and 91K?


Is it just glorified piper cub time like most places make it seem?
Honestly no one knows. JetBlue decided to remove the requirement for a college degree and PIC. They suggested there are many FO's at Eagle who have been in a jet for 6 or 7 years and based on JetBlues retirements and expansion there isn't a lot of chance for upgrade anyhow so they will have time to learn. JetBlue has also hired many pilots with no jet time what so ever.
Without suggesting one type of experience is better than another you can clearly infer that JetBlues intent is to hire a pilot who won't soon leave for a legacy carrier.
Recently it was leaked that cape air pilots would soon have a direct pipeline to JetBlue. So now you will have a 402 pilot with ZERO jet or turbo prop sitting in the right seat of a 320.
Again it's up to the individual to decide if this is fair/safe, etc but regardless that 402 pilot will come in with the "happy to be here" mentality ensuring they won't leave anytime soon or be inclined to vote for a CBA.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate View Post
For those in the pool UAL is scheduled to hire 40/month indefinitely beginning in February. DAL is scheduled to hire early next year. AA is calling back furloughs and USair has recently hired. FedEx is hiring.

Given all this information and reality of benefits/pay at Jetblue as compared to other carriers why are those of you in the pool still willing to accept a position?

Just curious.
US could be the golden ticket to anyone younger than 40 and willing to roll the dice with the AA/US merger. There would be tons of retirements at the combined company.

Im guessing many people come to JB who already have 1000PIC just so they can get some heavier jet time on the resume, and once the legacies like UAL/DAL/AA actually start off the street hiring they will be the first ones gone. FedEx is really a pipe dream unless you have several internal recs.

Jetblue serves as a stepping stone to differentiate yourself from the other thousands of RJ CAs when the hiring wave begins.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:19 AM
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You guys are right. JetBlue should only hire people who aren't "happy to be here." Listen to yourselves.

You guys forget that people may simply have their reasons for going there, and it's none of your damn business what those reasons are.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:35 AM
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You guys are right. JetBlue should only hire people who aren't "happy to be here." Listen to yourselves.

You guys forget that people may simply have their reasons for going there, and it's none of your damn business what those reasons are.
Very true. However, they all need to understand the facts about JetBlue and what will happen to them and their career once they get here. How we have no protections, substandard pay, benefits, work rules, retirement, etc. They all deserve to be fully informed and not mislead by spin and promises from JetBlue management (like many we have on property now!). They need to understand that upgrades to Capt will be 15-20 years minimum due to our growth plans and very young pilot group. (assuming we even last that long before a merger/buyout). They need to understand that if the need PIC time so they can apply to a real major airline, JetBLue is not the place to get it any time soon.

Yes, they each have their own reasons, and personal to them. However, they need to make an informed decision and what they can realistically expect if they do decide to apply.

Just my opinion.....

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Old 11-29-2012, 01:23 PM
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Very true. However, they all need to understand the facts about JetBlue and what will happen to them and their career once they get here. How we have no protections, substandard pay, benefits, work rules, retirement, etc. They all deserve to be fully informed and not mislead by spin and promises from JetBlue management (like many we have on property now!). They need to understand that upgrades to Capt will be 15-20 years minimum due to our growth plans and very young pilot group. (assuming we even last that long before a merger/buyout). They need to understand that if the need PIC time so they can apply to a real major airline, JetBLue is not the place to get it any time soon.

Yes, they each have their own reasons, and personal to them. However, they need to make an informed decision and what they can realistically expect if they do decide to apply.

Just my opinion.....

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I get all that. Problem is we ALL have looked at that, made our decision, and come to this thread to get info about the classes, etc. If I want the propaganda, I'll go to the rant thread, or the other sources of vitriol around here.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner View Post
I get all that. Problem is we ALL have looked at that, made our decision, and come to this thread to get info about the classes, etc. If I want the propaganda, I'll go to the rant thread, or the other sources of vitriol around here.

Amen brother!
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner View Post
I get all that. Problem is we ALL have looked at that, made our decision, and come to this thread to get info about the classes, etc. If I want the propaganda, I'll go to the rant thread, or the other sources of vitriol around here.

Just because you aren't hearing what you want to hear doesn't mean it's propaganda!


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Old 11-29-2012, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211 View Post
Just because you aren't hearing what you want to hear doesn't mean it's propaganda!


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Great advice, all she heed it.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:45 PM
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In typical forum fashion it is always the vocal few.

In reality, it is the same ~8 posters who have said the same thing a different way. It is what it is, the facts are in front of you. No one here is 8 years old and all likely have the cognitive ability to process information and make an informed decision.

If you only listened to those with the highest post count you'd think JetBlue was a fate closely assimilated to a life prison sentence.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:07 PM
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Some people's percpectives just aren't positive no matter what happens. All in all I really like it here at JB, and yes I want a CBA. I have seen more connecting the dots and misuse of one sided facts on this forum than I thought was possible. Facts taken out of context and without understanding of background don't constitute the truth. Take the cape air program that keeps coming up. It is the gateway VI program and these individuals are mentored from the university level to their interviews at JB. They are highly veted individuals that have been under the JB microscope for many years and must complete A jet transition/evaluation course through JBU before they can even get an interview. I see a lot of highlight reels on this forum but no real research with hard evidence. Yes we need a CBA for a fair working environment, but make no mistake this is a good place to work.
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