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03-03-2016 | 11:45 AM
#1181
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I had 1,000 hrs when hired, you are thinking of all the Eagle pilots that got hired without their commercial multi and only 250 hrs back in 2008 when (shockingly) they couldn't get enough new hires. I did earn it because the FAA said you need 1,000 SIC hours just to attempt to upgrade while those senior to me did not earn enough SIC time yet. You would have loved being stuck in the right seat for 10 years you say? You are already complaining and saying captains haven't earned their upgrade and you've been flying 121 for what 1 year? Why not just sit back and love your time as an FO now instead of complaining about not getting a bonus?
they are not showing my some of my HRV days in flica. they are showing them as SCR. then a Deadhead to HRV for 0 time then the flying assignment so all I am getting credit for (at the moment is the flying or deadhead) but no the HRV.
More emails to get my peanuts.
03-03-2016 | 11:54 AM
#1182
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Just another heads up.
they are not showing my some of my HRV days in flica. they are showing them as SCR. then a Deadhead to HRV for 0 time then the flying assignment so all I am getting credit for (at the moment is the flying or deadhead) but no the HRV.
More emails to get my peanuts.
they are not showing my some of my HRV days in flica. they are showing them as SCR. then a Deadhead to HRV for 0 time then the flying assignment so all I am getting credit for (at the moment is the flying or deadhead) but no the HRV.
More emails to get my peanuts.
03-03-2016 | 11:57 AM
#1183
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03-03-2016 | 01:16 PM
#1184
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I don't think some of you guys get it. The retention bonus wasn't to keep FOs from jumping ship to LLCs like some of you guys are saying, it was to keep current FOs from not leaving for places like endevor which honestly they should. Captain's pay is not well below industry standard here but FO pay is. The union keep money out of the pockets of FOs who probably need it to most for the chance that maybe they will get something too. It's disgusting how greedy some people are.
Now think of this: If senior f/o's to you were to leave and go elsewhere, you can hold a line faster, possibly get weekends off, upgrade faster etc...
By having more attrition everyone benefits below the person leaving. A bonus to f/o's just makes it worse for you. Think about how much better it would be if 100 f/o's ahead of you quit.
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The company makes this a great place to work and we collectively benefit. If PSA was a great airline they wouldn't have to offer bribes in the first place.
03-03-2016 | 02:01 PM
#1185
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Look into the mirror. Two days ago you have exactly what you got today. You didn't lose a thing.
Now think of this: If senior f/o's to you were to leave and go elsewhere, you can hold a line faster, possibly get weekends off, upgrade faster etc...
By having more attrition everyone benefits below the person leaving. A bonus to f/o's just makes it worse for you. Think about how much better it would be if 100 f/o's ahead of you quit.
Or
The company makes this a great place to work and we collectively benefit. If PSA was a great airline they wouldn't have to offer bribes in the first place.
03-03-2016 | 02:05 PM
#1186
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A CA paycheck is a viable living, an FO check is not. Your representation grossly ignored this fact. Overnight, you motivated damn near every FO to reevaluate coming to PSA. You've guaranteed stagnation and an impending year of staffing abuses that go unchecked by a contract written in toilet paper. Your knocked the cupcakes off the table so nobody could have one. FO's got robbed by ALPA. Please.., tell us about those great new pay rates you're working on, uh. After the big critical pay settlement right around the corner. I know, I know, pilots don't really understand the process blah blah.
03-03-2016 | 02:09 PM
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And what is wrong with having a little business perspective? Why lock in a rate that is unsustainable if a black swan event happens? Sure, a higher permanent rate is good. But I'll take it from the bonus checkbook just the same.
03-03-2016 | 02:10 PM
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Look into the mirror. Two days ago you have exactly what you got today. You didn't lose a thing.
Now think of this: If senior f/o's to you were to leave and go elsewhere, you can hold a line faster, possibly get weekends off, upgrade faster etc...
By having more attrition everyone benefits below the person leaving. A bonus to f/o's just makes it worse for you. Think about how much better it would be if 100 f/o's ahead of you quit.
Or
The company makes this a great place to work and we collectively benefit. If PSA was a great airline they wouldn't have to offer bribes in the first place.
I don't understand why you're not more angry about the insult from the company. They have basically just told you that you are worth less than half of what an endeavor pilot is worth. In addition to that, if they would stop manipulating the reserves and restore critical pay, you would probably be making more than $2,500 per quarter anyway. They basically tried to bribe you with money they took out of your pocket.
Also this move is good for your advancement. I think a lot of captains who made have been waiting for the flow (or more likely Delta or United) under the false assumption that things may eventually improve here are now strongly considering a move to spirit,jetblue, frontier or southwest.
With the exception those FOs that live in base I can't for the life of me understand why any FO with less than a year in this company is still here.
03-03-2016 | 02:35 PM
#1189
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See, this is a horrible mindset. We are NOT a "foe" to the company. I'm here to make a living doing what I like to do. The company is here to make a profit offering a service. We should work together for our mutual benefit instead of the adversarial mentality you have.
03-03-2016 | 02:44 PM
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From: CRJ FO
See, this is a horrible mindset. We are NOT a "foe" to the company. I'm here to make a living doing what I like to do. The company is here to make a profit offering a service. We should work together for our mutual benefit instead of the adversarial mentality you have.
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