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Old 05-17-2016 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
It's really none of your business. If you want to concern yourself with productive things just do your job and stop kissing the company's but.
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Old 05-17-2016 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchRapp
The only reason Endeavor has what it has now is because 500+ left in 5 months. The only reason they got more is because they need to bring the 200's back for a while to cover the Republic flying. Anyone who thinks Delta is opening the wallet out of the kindness of their hearts is sniffing glue. Endeavor is probably a good spot for a young new hire right now, but wait till Delta onboards those 75 new narrowbodies. The lateral movement, which I was a part of that 500, only perpetrates the bonuses. If and big if PSA experiences a max exodus then Doug & friends will probably do what Delta did. I'd bring up Delta's history with contractors, but then someone will tell me times are different now.

As far as the SAP goes, that's a union issue to which I say, what union? Our MEC should be embarrassed with how it's own Pilot group feels about them. Spare me the arbitration talk and that being the only path to any resolution. Quit signing LOA's that bail the company out. They will take as much rope as you give them. Wouldn't you?
Yes, so that's why I say why bother? Why bother with contacting the useless PSA union that will just tell you to fly it and grieve it then open their mouths for PSA. Why bother with SAP an staying up all night trying for trades? Just deny the trip and/or call in sick, worst case scenario you have to go to Endeavor and get a 20k a year raise.

I understand and acknowledge that endeavor and Delta Are not doing anything they are doing out of the goodness of their hearts, but the difference is they are doing something whereas Dougie and crew are trying to keep it as cheap as they can for as long as they can and we have no idea how long that will be and in the meantime our union seems more than willing to help them with there goal.

Fly it and grieve it, hotels "should" be here in June just like the DAY crew room "should" be ready 1 May and upgrade "should" be 1 year and flow"should" be 5 years.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90
I would have better words to tell you but my professional integrity wont allow me to stoop to your level.

But hey whatever helps you sleep at night Mr. God's gift to aviation
You all tried to sell everyone else out for your own benefit and it's not really working, you did it to yourself. Enjoy that, I hope the whippings continue
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Old 05-18-2016 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
You all tried to sell everyone else out for your own benefit and it's not really working, you did it to yourself. Enjoy that, I hope the whippings continue


You are mean!
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Old 05-18-2016 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90
I would have better words to tell you but my professional integrity wont allow me to stoop to your level.

But hey whatever helps you sleep at night Mr. God's gift to aviation
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooh! Scary!
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Old 05-18-2016 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mking84
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooh! Scary!
Grow up...
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Old 05-18-2016 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
You all tried to sell everyone else out for your own benefit and it's not really working, you did it to yourself. Enjoy that, I hope the whippings continue
A year ago when we were talking to people interested in coming to PSA things were different.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 08:02 AM
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The FOs that really want to upgrade quickly should start selling the company to all their friends and help get the classes full again. You're only hurting your own prosperity by constantly scaring potential new hires away. Empty classes will not result in major contractual improvements, the union has sold false hope if you believe that. American will not spend more than what they consider a competitive market rate. Empty new hire classes results in stagnation for everyone on the list, just ask the guys at Envoy.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 08:03 AM
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Come they said. It'll be fun they said.


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Old 05-18-2016 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
The FOs that really want to upgrade quickly should start selling the company to all their friends and help get the classes full again. You're only hurting your own prosperity by constantly scaring potential new hires away. Empty classes will not result in major contractual improvements, the union has sold false hope if you believe that. American will not spend more than what they consider a competitive market rate. Empty new hire classes results in stagnation for everyone on the list, just ask the guys at Envoy.
Wow. Lie to potential new hires for you own personal gain.

Ethics. It's a thing.
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