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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
How about the denial message that said "nice try". That's not automated. That's a manual transaction. Not real time.
So that means they slowed it down?
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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by joek
So that means they slowed it down?
It's proof that a human is manually approving/denying the transactions. Humans are slower than computers.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by joek
What proof do you have that they intentionally slow down the SAP?
Are you not going to address anything else but the SAP being of acceptable speed for you?
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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramprat
It's proof that a human is manually approving/denying the transactions. Humans are slower than computers.
LMAO.....thats your proof??
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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy View Post
The kool-aid is strong with this one.

How do you feel about the company stealing thousands of dollars from you by not honoring the contract when it comes to critical pay?

I'll let you know after the arbitration is done

How do you feel about money getting stolen from you with the new ACARS times programming (must move a substantial distance from the gate to start getting paid)?

I just ACARS the dispatcher with the time & the CP

How do you feel about the company forcing illegal extensions, and threatening to fire people if they won't accept them?

I've turn down a couple with no threat of being fired


How do you feel about the manipulation of the reserve grid so that it is almost impossible to swap trips after the SAP closes?

I have had some success with swaps, but we are hurting for FOs so that will mess up the grid

How do you feel about the 10 hour 4 day trips?

I avoid those crap trips

How do you feel about the company purposely slowing the SAP to the point that it is just about worthless?

Really, do you have proof of this?

I am glad that the SAP worked for you, but there were many pilots that were screwed by this and ended up with a terrible schedule. Will you say the same thing next month when you get all denials and no approvals?

Should I go on? I can...

Hotels?

Lying recruiters?

The company goes to great lengths on a regular basis to show their disdain for us.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:42 PM
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Here's the bottom line: anyone hired right when the growth started has made out pretty well. I guarantee there are line holding CAs out there who have never sat reserve as FOs or CAs.

That's certainly not going to be the case for new hires now. You have a lot of reserve ahead of you, but if you live in base that's manageable. But don't believe for a second that you're going to be seeing that right out of training. The Jr Round 1 lineholder (the threshold for SAP) is in CVG and has been on property 8 months.

Yes, the company has done a **** poor job of managing the growth and has (I believe) intentionally manipulated many things in their favor. They are ignoring the market trends and what actually motivates pilots to come to work for an airline, and instead want you to think about the 5-6 year picture. They may have a point, but that point is mitigated by heads of recruiting for other Legacy carriers stating that they will have difficulty filling their own flight decks in 3-5 years time.

The better question to ask is what does regional flying look like down the road, over a 1-3 year window. The short answer is nobody knows. I personally think there will be some advantage at a wholly owned. Is that imagined advantage enough to justify coming to an AAG wholly owned? Who the hell knows. Is it enough to go to Endeavor? Who the hell knows. It's been pointed out that their bonus ends about the time the C series is going to show up at mainline. It's also fair to point out that the have a CRJ900 rate in their CBA.

In the end, what should you do? No one can really answer that question, because no one really knows what's going to happen over time. AAG could pull their head out of their ass and finally realize that they're going to have to legitimately compete for pilots. Endeavor could have street CAs. Or the whole thing could just come crashing down.

No. One. Knows.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by joek
Originally Posted by CLT Guy View Post
The kool-aid is strong with this one.

How do you feel about the company stealing thousands of dollars from you by not honoring the contract when it comes to critical pay?

I'll let you know after the arbitration is done

How do you feel about money getting stolen from you with the new ACARS times programming (must move a substantial distance from the gate to start getting paid)?

I just ACARS the dispatcher with the time & the CP

How do you feel about the company forcing illegal extensions, and threatening to fire people if they won't accept them?

I've turn down a couple with no threat of being fired


How do you feel about the manipulation of the reserve grid so that it is almost impossible to swap trips after the SAP closes?

I have had some success with swaps, but we are hurting for FOs so that will mess up the grid

How do you feel about the 10 hour 4 day trips?

I avoid those crap trips

How do you feel about the company purposely slowing the SAP to the point that it is just about worthless?

Really, do you have proof of this?

I am glad that the SAP worked for you, but there were many pilots that were screwed by this and ended up with a terrible schedule. Will you say the same thing next month when you get all denials and no approvals?

Should I go on? I can...

Hotels?

Lying recruiters?

The company goes to great lengths on a regular basis to show their disdain for us.
So... It is ok that they are stealing the money now? But you are still waiting until the arbitration is done? Got it.

And what do you do when you get the message from dispatch that they are unable to change the times on newer airplanes, and the CPs say the same thing? And MK says during an upgrade class "why should I pay you more to do your job, I already pay you too much"

How often do you refuse an extension? Also, is it ok that the company does threaten some pilots, as long as it is not you?

I see that you are being extremely selfish, so I doubt you will understand how you sound. You are saying that it is ok if everyone else is getting screwed as long as it is not you. You are the perfect PSA pilot. Thanks for perpetuating the stereotype of a regional pilot that is only out for himself. I look forward to seeing you in the next PSA propaganda video.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by joek
LMAO.....thats your proof??
Are you serious? "nice try" as a denial reason isn't proof that a human is, or has run the SAP? gimme a break dude.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 06:10 PM
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The FOs awarded captain upgrade today will go straight to holding a line. It will be the same for the FOs upgrade in the future too. The 2.5 year upgrade means you will hold a line once you finish upgrade training. The street captains and Endeavor guys will be on reserve while your holding a line.
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Old 05-18-2016 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Are you serious? "nice try" as a denial reason isn't proof that a human is, or has run the SAP? gimme a break dude.
I agree, that is human. My argument is, prove that they intentionally slowed SAP down for June.
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