If you want to end your NC status BEFORE the SC period starts that requires a call to scheduling. Yes once the SC period starts a simple check of your icrew schedule is all that is required but if you are more than 2 hours from the airport you’ll want to end your NC status before the SC starts since you can’t make it to the airport by 2:00 if you check your schedule at 0:01 and see an assignment.

 

That is a very interesting (and very specific) scenario.

If I gather what you are saying, you would be using SC NC, but making yourself "promptly available" before the SC even began.

I say, fair play.

 

I mean it does the first time you do it....that is one of the ways to get out of the NC'able status...if nothing on your schedule, then you immediately go into the normal'ish, not defined for a reason, two hour-ish, but could be longer due to traffic, SC response time.

As a little nugget of info to all. in the FA's work rules document, when they are on A days (their version of SC) they have a clearly spelled out 2 hour report time except for NYC, where it's 3.

So if the company is good with a FA taking up to 3 hours to get to the airport, then maybe 3'ish is acceptable for pilots too.....just saying.

 

Well, I live 3'ish hours from the airport, so I'm 100% on board with this plan.

 

I am a 45 minute drive from EWR in normal traffic.

So by my math, as long as I'm rolling within 60-90 minutes from call, I'm legit. If they call me to JFK, (farthest airport) during rush hour or bad weather, I get there when I safely can.

CS got ****y once last winter, I asked for a supervisor and brought in the duty pilot.

CS wasn't happy with my estimated JFK arrival time. They called at 7am, so rush hour, and it was snowing. They said I had to be at any airport within 2 hours. I asked for chapter and verse from PWA or SRH. I reminded them that if they want airport standby, there's a provision for that in the PWA.

I then told them, and provided the math for how I could be sitting in the lounge at JFK and still be over 2 hours to LGA. Blew their mind. DP was appeased and told them to deal with it.

For those wondering:
15 Lounge to bus stop
​​​​15 waiting for bus
15 ride to lot.

I'm at 45 minutes and just got to my truck.
On a good day, it's 30 minutes to LGA employee lot. Can be over an hour.

1:15 best case and I'm just in the LGA lot. Another 30m for bus and drive.

1:45 on a good day lounge to KCM. Now get randomed and walk to gate. 2:15+ if its rush hour. Nevermind bad weather, holiday traffic, Mets game, or the US Open.

 

How is retro pay calculated/what in the PWA governs this situation (being illegally assigned within 2 hr NC window)?

 

Surely I am not the only person that read this with a strong southern drawl.

 

It's assignment pay. Rules for assignment pay are not privy to the masses.

 

Assignment pay for an illegal reserve assignment is the value of the first duty period paid as pay/no credit (so on top of guarantee).

 

Cool. But can you reference that anywhere that we can reference it?

If your reference is 23.U.3.c. That isn't really what we're talking about because that would be legal. What is the illegal reference?