Scheduling hasn't "required" a single pilot to fly in violation of the contract. It is up to each and every single pilot to know their contract and to learn to say, "no" when asked or told to do something. Honestly, half of the schedulers don't know or understand our contract either so I'm not surprised. But it's still the responsibility of the pilot. Have an issue with something? Use the buddy system and ask a friend and if that fails phone your rep. That's what they are there for.

 

If the only attrition ahead of you is from flow a 5 year time frame would be accurate for someone hired in 2012-2013. If you are hired tomorrow and attrition is only through flow you are looking at 18 years to flow.

Of course it is highly likely that attrition will be greater than just from the flow, so those timeframes come down. But the bigger threat is if PSA continues to be unable to staff, will AAG even honor the flow agreement? They've already shown a willingness to violate our contract, and they have disregaurded flow agreements in the past with Eagle.

My biggest complaint with PSA is that they've been promoting the idea of hiring 1000 pilots and growing the airline, but unwilling to increase compensation to remain competitive with the rest of the industry. What did they think would bring pilots here? At first quick career progression was enough for many but they had to know that would end by about the 1/2 way mark which is where we are now. So did they change their minds or was this the plan all along.

 

If it were as simple as saying "I'm sorry no that violates my contract" and having it dropped I would agree with you. But the instances I am referring to have required escalation to scheduling supervisors, chief pilots, and union reps. All over clearly written contract language.

 

Why would you do all that, just say no. If you are clearly correct than you have nothing to worry about. Are you scared of a few 20 years olds? This is why pilots are in the position they are in is they won't stand up for themselves even when they are clearly in the right.

You are personally causing major problems for the pilot group if this is how you let things play out, -1 point for you.

 

Who the f*ck are you with your 20 posts to even know whats in the psa contract?

 

The way it has gone down recently is a scheduler says you must do x and when you refuse the scheduling supervisor says you must do it or else, and when you say no the chief pilot calls and threatens punitive action. When it escalates that far over something black and white in the contract there is a serious problem.

Also an employee's age has no effect, whether its an 18 year old or 65 year old, if they are threatening to damage your career with a letter of reprimand over a clear contractual violation there is a problem.

 

I know for a fact they were having people sit hot reserve out of base just so they wouldn't have to pay for hotels.Happened on several occasions, which was one of the MANY reasons these individuals decided to quit.

 

Remember, if you and anyone else thinks Sch is breaking the contract call the CP. Sch IS NOT YOUR SUPERVISOR. Please pass that onto your friends.

 

You're standing on the train tracks looking at the bright lights coming towards you,trying to figure out what it is instead of moving out the way.
Once that last 900 hits the property in a month or two the music stops and will remain that way for a long time.
They are staffed for that,nothing beyond.
Stick around if you want.
Let me know how that works out for you .

 

Absolutley. Know the contract, fly the contract, do not allow anyone to bully you into accepting an assignment in violation of the contract. If the chief pilot is allowing a violation contact your union rep.

As staffing becomes more of a problem you can count on scheduling pushing pilots to fly outside the contract. With many newer pilots who may fear repercussions they could take advantage. Do not let them. Fly it and grieve it is not acceptable.