Sounds a lot like the way the company doesn’t actually need 40 SCs / day in a category with 6 daily departures. If they want to exercise every provision in the contract whether needed or not, then we can return the favor.

 

This just shows me you were not involved with the fired RD in NYC…..

 

Non contactable is exactly what it sounds like. Whether I am out of coverage, choose to turn my phone off, or an airline makes me is no different. I often spend time about 4-5 hours drive from my base even though I live in base. I could fly a regional flight to base, drive, fly a personal aircraft, and theoretically boat to the base airport all of which have cellular coverage issues. You choose to ignore and interpret the PWA with your own traditional bias. Your OPINION of the PWA and it's application means nothing. Your choice of the word "ostensibly" is absoluteley correct, however it's at odds with your choice of the word "legitimately." So which is it? You know you are wrong and too set in your ways (outdated attitude and bias) to accept literal PWA language. You sir are not the arbitrator of this issue, thankfully. We all are responsible adults who know when and where they need to be, as well as when they need to be contactable and when they don't (or they have come here looking for facts) so instead of creating more doubt, try helping. Those who choose to use this provision should not be mislead or shamed.

As for the increased short calls, this was always part of the PWA in fact it used to be 7 for long months. Are you attempting to apply some non PWA standard based on some past (inaccurate) assumption or expectation? The increase in short calls was an initiative to increase productivity and utilization. That is something I fully expect from management and has no bearing on or causation for people using NC. It harms commuters who choose to be RES that were acustomed to fewer SC assignments and had hoped that would continue, I agree. That is a result of PWA changes and both sides have and will continue to adapt to. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the language of the current PWA and drop any preconceived notions to better your understanding and QOL.


When you need to be in the vicinity of a/the base airport and be contactable.... only during short call
A pilot on short call is required to be within the general area of his base and promptly available for contact by Crew Scheduling and must be able to promptly report for an awarded/assigned rotation. This is undefined but is accepted to be 2ish hours.

When you need to be contactable..... during long call or short call
However, Crew Scheduling will attempt to notify a long-call pilot of a rotation, short-call period, or rest period, and place the assignment on their schedule in iCrew. A long-call pilot has no obligation to check their schedule while on call. You are not required to acknowledge any assignments on LC. You are only obligated to report.

When you don't need to be contactable.... any rest period, any non-fly day, (X day, VA day, off day) layover, 24 hours from an assigned trip on reserve, while in training, after 6 hours following the cancelation of leg 1 of a rotation, during the first 2 hours of SC after reporting yourself non-contactable


A CNO notification is only valid for changing from LC to SC (not trip assignments)

 

Dude, throttle back.
I didn’t realize the word legitimate was such a trigger. I have no problem with you being non- contactable at your lake house, airplane, or wherever. (Although it does seem a little obtuse if you’re in the terminal and tell scheduling you’ll be there in 2 hours… but whatever) If it’s in the PWA, go for it.
My point is that the generally given use of non-contactable has been for commuters commuting in during their first 2 hours of SC, not for PhD-level SC masters trying to shirk an assignment, which has been the discussion the last 20 pages. You want to be a ninja, good! Go for it!! 👍 It’s not illegal. The provision is in the PWA. I’m not hating on you. The only thing I’m hating is the company change to max SC. That part sucks. It used to be better. Sorry if my language has confused the topic.

 

Shirking an assignment or getting paid double are nice side benefits. What I personally want is for the company to use the proper tools that we negotiated…to pay people to be on airport standby, and not get it for free. VAS and standby rotations put properly-compensated volunteers where they want to be, and keep non-vols where they also want to be (presumably not working). A little less non-contractual reserve usage also generates a little more GS activity for those who want that.

 

All of this.

 

Throttle back? You are the one who effectively called people illegitimate for using a PWA provision. If anyone needs a throttle adjustment... and an update on PWA requirements and provisions, it's you. I was being helpful and educating while you were being condescending and inaccurate. Consider yourself throttled.

 

IMHO you completely misunderstood the response if you think the word "legitimate" was the trigger. The response was because you are publicly advocating for devaluing the contract by providing VAS level of service for SC compensation. Know what you are worth. CS routinely takes advantage of this, especially in FRMS trip coverage by assigning trips that report 30 minutes into the SC window.

Senior locals bypassing the NC contract provision are voluntarily placing themselves in front of junior commuters for SC trip coverage.

 

just don't report before 2 hours into SC....

 

...or accept a trip that reports in the first 2 hours of SC when you are NC. Make them follow the PWA or pay for the violation.